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We've seen a few "themed" threads started recently (Beach, animals etc) and potentially there could be dozens more coming.
Here is a sticky thread in this forum by @annk
Guidelines for posting in the Digital Photography section

There is also the Picture Gallery

What do we really want in this forum? I guess guidelines can be updated but there was/is a reason for those?

I would just like a discussion around this before we go all crazy and no-one can follow threads anymore
 

Captain Trips

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My initial thoughts, subject to change.

Having themed threads can be good, if there is enough interest (I know, hard to tell sometimes). Like if another, broader, thread has a lot of pictures on a theme (like animals in general, or particular types of animals), then a themed thread can be useful.

Even with themed threads, though, I still think people should be ablate post pictures that would fit in a themed thread in a broader thread, if the picture "fits" in the broader thread. As an example, if an animal picture (which can go in an animal themed thread, can match up in the Photo Association Game thread, then by all means post it in the broader thread. If you are uncertain, post in the themed thread.

It would also be nice to have a "parent" thread that has links to the themed threads, like there is for the Weekly threads.
 

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i'm all for this IF the thread poster abides by the rules and follows up on the thread daily.
but if we have a photograph thread for animals, then one will pop up for cats, then argentine horned frogs then "unicorns walking down 5th ave with a triple latte". when will that end?
 

mollyc

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I admit I’m a little overwhelmed by the new threads. I like the increase in participation in the overall photo forum but I’m not sure this site is the one to host a bunch of theme threads. I feel like a dedicated photo site is better for that but of course I’m not trying to push people away either.

I don’t really have a proposed solution. Will have to think a bit more about this.
 

mollyc

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i'm all for this IF the thread poster abides by the rules and follows up on the thread daily.
but if we have a photograph thread for animals, then one will pop up for cats, then argentine horned frogs then "unicorns walking down 5th ave with a triple latte". when will that end?
Also the poster should acknowledge participants and should un-ignore photo members if they have. That’s tricky since members can’t see who is ignored or not.
 

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The Picture Gallery has been where a lot of MR participants who don't hang out in the digital photography section tend to post their snapshots of various things, including their cars, their desktop setups, their pets, etc., or their images taken with their particular model of iPhone. Over the years I've noticed threads about photos of your car, photos of your desktop, photos of your pets, photos shot with your iPhone 12 Pro Max.....

My perception is and always has been that the Digital Photography subforum tends to focus on a somewhat more serious approach to photography, which is why in here you'll mostly see photos shot with DSLRs and mirrorless interchangeable lens (ILC) cameras as opposed to P&S or cell phone cameras. We get into occasional discussions about gear, too: lenses, new models of various brands of DSLRs and mirrorless ILC, accessories used with that kind of gear, etc. I think when iGary (who, if I recall correctly, was/is a professional photographer) first started the POTD thread and mentioned posting one's best photos he had exactly that concept in mind, rather than snapshots of one's desktop setup or some such, as there was and is already a place on MR for the latter kind of image.

The Digital Photography subforum also can indeed be a place to learn and grow, and those who are new to photography should be encouraged and helped, provided guidance as needed and requested, and there are indeed long-time participants in this subforum who have a solid knowledge base and often years of experience. I think over the years it has been apparent that we are always open to questions about gear, techniques, ways to shoot certain subjects or scenes, etc.

Yes, before things get way out of hand here in this subforum we do need to carefully consider where we want to go, what we want to do and how to best achieve that.
 

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I am not bothered by any of this. I think the forum should be as open as possible in order to include as many people as possible. A car thread will not appeal to cat people and vice versa. There are some basic rules that already guide the MR site. Other rules should be individualized to the needs of each thread. I don't feel overwhelmed because I don't feel any need to participate in everything.
 

Captain Trips

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I am not bothered by any of this. I think the forum should be as open as possible in order to include as many people as possible. A car thread will not appeal to cat people and vice versa. There are some basic rules that already guide the MR site. Other rules should be individualized to the needs of each thread. I don't feel overwhelmed because I don't feel any need to participate in everything.
Joke response: you know I am now going have to take a picture of one of my cats sitting in the driver's seat of my car... ?

Serious response: I agree that as long as the forum rules are followed, things should work out. I occasionally go through MR forums of interest to see if there are new threads I might want to read, but typically I follow the ones I want to keep up on without having to search through the various forums (like Photo of the Day, Photo Association Game, a couple of exercise threads, and occasionally a Mac thread).
 

mollyc

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I am not bothered by any of this. I think the forum should be as open as possible in order to include as many people as possible. A car thread will not appeal to cat people and vice versa. There are some basic rules that already guide the MR site. Other rules should be individualized to the needs of each thread. I don't feel overwhelmed because I don't feel any need to participate in everything.
What a good soul you have. I should try to adopt this attitude.

although I stand by my sentiment on ignoring photo forum members.
 

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I seem to be the guilty party that started it with the Panorama thread. My thinking was that most panoramas need to be viewed full size which typically requires moving the image side to side or top to bottom. Something that many viewers of the day Photo thread would not bother to do. Also I was hoping to encourage viewers to occasionally think multiframe, when their widest angle lens falls short.

Personally I see no need for threads for particular subjects but that is personal opinion only.
 
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mollyc

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I seem to be the guilty party that started it with the Panorama thread. My thinking was that most panoramas need to be zoomed in and slid side to side or top to bottom, which is something that many viewers of the day Photo thread would not bother to do. Also I was hoping to encourage viewers to occasionally think multiframe, when their widest angle lens falls short.

Personally I see no need for threads for particular subjects but that is personal opinion only.
Panorama is at least a technique. Not just random themed subjects.

clearly I’m torn on this lol.
 

Captain Trips

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although I stand by my sentiment on ignoring photo forum members.
(Stupid) Question about this, and I did try to search through the forum Support section for instances of "ignore" and "ignoring".

Does this mean that if I start a new thread, that people on my ignore list can't see that thread?

Or are you referring more to "don't ignore people you know are photo fans / devotees" if you are going to start a (themed) thread?

I ask out of ignorance - what you saying makes sense on an intellectual level, I just want to make sure I am not missing something that I should know as a fairly active participant in the MR forums.

Thanks!
 
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Captain Trips

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Personally I see no need for threads for particular subjects but that is personal opinion only.
I tend to lean in this direction. I did post in the newly created Animal thread (@jz0309 called my attention to it! Honest!), but likely won't post much in the future. And I posted twice in the Car thread, but now that I posted pictures there of my current and past cars, I won't be posting anything new and only go back infrequently..

I suspect that many of these themed threads will die out, or at least have periods of inactivity.

I really do like the Photo of the Day and the Photo Association Game threads because of the breadth of what can be posted - heck, the association thread is already up to 1K posts in less than a month.
 
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deep diver

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I seem to be the guilty party that started it with the Panorama thread.

You are hereby banished. Or maybe we should sentence you to first place in the weekly challenge for at least the next month. Surely that will teach you.

Seriously......... I think the pano thread is a legit thread topic of special interest.

There have always been a some threads that do not belong on this forum or are posted for the wrong reasons. That's the price we pay for having this open platform. In those cases, just walk away.
 

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(Stupid) Question about this, and I did try to search through the forum Support section for instances of "ignore" and "ignoring".

Does this mean that if I start a new thread, that people on my ignore list can't see that thread?

Or are you referring more to "don't ignore people you know are photo fans / devotees" if you are going to start a (themed) thread?

I ask out of ignorance - what you saying makes sense on an intellectual level, I just want to make sure I am not missing something that I should know as a fairly active participant in the MR forums.

Thanks!
If you put me on your ignore list I can still see your threads and respond to them. You will not see anything I add to the thread because you have ignored me.

On a site as large as MR I completely understand why the ignore feature is here, especially for people who are active in PRSI. I think in some cases it’s quite needed actually.

In practice for such a small subforum as the digital photography group I think if you decide to be a thread starter that all should be included. No one here is mean or rude or disrespectful.

there is a newer participant to our group who has started several threads and did not like some of the responses. He has since started ignoring some of us am I am not sure if it’s from the forum option or self restraint. Either way it makes some if the threads disjointed in some ways.

There is no way to enforce this. It’s just common courtesy for a small group, IMO.
 

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I think, especially where different skills are involved, the POTD threads tend to be mostly just photos, whereas the themed threads give you a place to talk about technique.
 
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Captain Trips

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@mollyc - Cool, that is how I thought it worked, but the way you originally phrased it made me think there was something I was missing.

And I aree about not ignoring people in the Digital Photography section, and in general. Typically I only ignore trolls, and I haven't seen any of them in the Digital Photography section.
 
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Captain Trips

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there is a newer participant to our group who has started several threads and did not like some of the responses. He has since started ignoring some of us am I am not sure if it’s from the forum option or self restraint. Either way it makes some if the threads disjointed in some ways.

Yes, that does make the treads disjointed - you only know someone you ignored has posted is if someone quotes their post, and then you see an option to temporarily stop ignoring them.

That is why I think hard before I ignore someone. Plus, just because someone posts something I don't like does not mean they won't post something in the future I do like and then I would miss out.

So yeah, unless someone tries hard over a series of posts, I do not use the ignore feature.
 
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mollyc

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I think, especially where different skills are involved, the POTD threads tend to be mostly just photos, whereas the themed threads give you a place to talk about technique.
The themed threads that have popped up recently are photo share threads, not technique. I think that’s where to confusion lies.

“Let’s see your animal photos” is very different than “what is the best gear for birding?”

It’s a fine line I think, which is why the discussion started
 

Captain Trips

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I actually think that having "techniques" or "gear" in the thread title (to use @mollyc 's example) would be nice.

Not saying we need more rules, but having clearly named threads would definitely help. Because "Post your animal photos" is definitely different from "How do I take effective animal pictures" and both are good threads and would be helped by being separated.
 
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To each his/her own. But I'm quite comfortable with the limited amount of threads: potd, weekly challenge, associationa and the occasional technical thread( pano). One of the joys for me is the limited account of threads to go through every day.
 
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