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BrentwoodTWO

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The iPhone 6 is just as thin as the iPod, you will be carrying it with you everywhere, even to the gym. You can use your phone to listen to music while exercising. So, there you go, absolutely no reason to buy this thing. Same thing with an iPad.. Unless iPad has its own OS, save your money and only get the iPhone.
 
All those points are valid. However, what about those that have more than 128 GB of music (or rather, more than some amount less than that since some room will be used for apps, photos, etc.) or don't want to pay for the monthly service for an iPhone?

I happen to fall into the category of not being able to afford a phone plan at this point, so iPods are for me. If they sold an iPhone unlocked for $300, I'd immediately snatch one up.
 
The artists and labels control those music services. At any point they can decide that they don't want any part of it and pluck their catalogue out of these services. It used to be that we didn't want to be forced to listen to whatever the radio stations wanted us to listen at that current moment, and now people are perfectly fine giving into that idea again.

It's perfectly fine if YOU don't want an iPod, but you're not going to dictate whether or not it is still a useful gadget for the rest of us.
 
It would be very simple with continuity to have a big spaced ipod connected with everything for ipod to Apple watch to listen any kind of music.... Not in substitution to the iphone but in addiction.... Apple is missing a market like the one from fiio or better astell e kern....
Maybe we should switch to x1, but I hoped for a long time in a better classic with massive storage and a little touch display.... Apple is not anymore interested in a 2 billion market... They are out of mind considering also that the iPod lineup is not really updated since 2012.... Very sad


P.S. The following is my message to Apple feedback

"Hello
I am an owner of iphone ipad and Mac and the iPod was my first product from Apple ( in the form of nano)
When Apple discontinued the classic without a substitute is making a big mistake.
There is an increasing market in digital players that have very big storage for high quality music. In my opinion by selling a new device capable of playing high quality music (24bit 196 kHz) via iTunes store you could make more money, also by making headphones from beats that are capable of make a good sound.
Long story short my suggestion is to build a small form factor iPod with a touch screen around 3 inches or smaller with a big storage ( 256 gb Or more) to store music and with Bluetooth connection that can operate with continuity also on Apple watch and with a good amp section."
 
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People who say "save your money" seem to forget that the "5C for $0, 5S for $99, 6 for $199, 6 Plus for $200" only applies when you commit to a two-year contract that will cost you at minimum $720!.

If I want to spend less than $150 for a basic music player to take on jogs, no iPhone meets that, only the iPod shuffle and nano. The iPod touch at $199 is still cheaper than the $249 iPad mini, and much smaller.

Yes, if you are going to use it as a mobile phone, too, the iPhone is a "better deal," since you're going to spend on the monthly service anyway, but some people still want something even smaller, such as the iPod nano or shuffle. Some people explicitly don't want (or can't use,) a mobile phone (such as if you live where you know you can't get phone service.)

Some people (such as me,) have work-provided mobile phones, that make owning a second cell phone pointless. If I want an iTunes-compatible device, why would I bother paying for a second mobile phone, when an iPod will do just fine. (In my case, I was lucky, I got in on the first wave of iPhones here at work with a 5C - previously we were a Blackberry shop.)

There are plenty of reasons to buy an iPod instead of an iPhone. Just because they don't apply to you doesn't mean they don't exist.


Basic price comparison (n/c are the "no contract" full-price phone prices):
Code:
Device        | Base Price | + $30/month | 2-year
              |            |   contract  | price
iPod Shuffle    $49                        $49
iPod nano       $149                       $149
iPod touch      $199                       $199
iPad mini       $249                       $249
iPhone 5C       $0           +$720         $720
iPhone 5C n/c   $450                       $450
iPhone 6        $199         +$720         $919
iPhone 6 n/c    $649                       $649

And that's assuming a ridiculously cheap $30/month plan.
 
The iPhone 6 is just as thin as the iPod, you will be carrying it with you everywhere, even to the gym. You can use your phone to listen to music while exercising. So, there you go, absolutely no reason to buy this thing. Same thing with an iPad.. Unless iPad has its own OS, save your money and only get the iPhone.

I was considering it but $749 for a 64GB iPhone 6 to use as an iPod is too much.
 
The iPhone 6 is just as thin as the iPod, you will be carrying it with you everywhere, even to the gym. You can use your phone to listen to music while exercising. So, there you go, absolutely no reason to buy this thing. Same thing with an iPad.. Unless iPad has its own OS, save your money and only get the iPhone.

So small children should just pony up the $499 for an iPhone?

You seem to be ignoring millions of people, young and old, that just want a music player. It costs money to add the cellular component into your equation - a lot.

"Same thing with an iPad"

You've gotta be joking at this point, right?
 
The Limited Edition iPod Pro

It would be very simple with continuity to have a big spaced ipod connected with everything for ipod to Apple watch to listen any kind of music.... Not in substitution to the iphone but in addiction.... Apple is missing a market like the one from fiio or better astell e kern....
Maybe we should switch to x1, but I hoped for a long time in a better classic with massive storage and a little touch display.... Apple is not anymore interested in a 2 billion market... They are out of mind considering also that the iPod lineup is not really updated since 2012.... Very sad


P.S. The following is my message to Apple feedback

"Hello
I am an owner of iphone ipad and Mac and the iPod was my first product from Apple ( in the form of nano)
When Apple discontinued the classic without a substitute is making a big mistake.
There is an increasing market in digital players that have very big storage for high quality music. In my opinion by selling a new device capable of playing high quality music (24bit 196 kHz) via iTunes store you could make more money, also by making headphones from beats that are capable of make a good sound.
Long story short my suggestion is to build a small form factor iPod with a touch screen around 3 inches or smaller with a big storage ( 256 gb Or more) to store music and with Bluetooth connection that can operate with continuity also on Apple watch and with a good amp section."

What a concept! Play FLAC, ALAC, 24 bit / 196 kHz audio, etc. on the 'iPod Pro'
 
The iPhone 6 is just as thin as the iPod, you will be carrying it with you everywhere, even to the gym. You can use your phone to listen to music while exercising. So, there you go, absolutely no reason to buy this thing.
Wrong. The iPod Classic had click-wheel navigation where you can change songs, volume, pause/play, rewind/FF without looking at the screen! Try using an iPhone while driving the car or listening to music at night in the dark without looking at the screen. Click-wheels are awesome for music lovers.
 
I am guessing apple expects us to buy an iPhone used and use it as an iPod touch.. I am guessing with the abundance of used iPhones on the market that is what they expect us to do

Or buy an iPad mini, the problem is that the iPad mini doesn't fit in your pocket and most of my outside the house use is shopping apps that give me discounts in stores therefore I need a device that can be used in a store on the store's wifi. If I don't have a device to use when I am shopping quite frankly, I am paying too much for whatever I buy. I would be missing out on discounts that are only available to those with smartphones.

The iPad mini is simply too big to use while for example... Scanning products in a store and it doesn't fit in my purse.
 
Wrong. The iPod Classic had click-wheel navigation where you can change songs, volume, pause/play, rewind/FF without looking at the screen! Try using an iPhone while driving the car or listening to music at night in the dark without looking at the screen. Click-wheels are awesome for music lovers.

This reason alone makes the iPod classic invaluable to me.

Also, I can purchase one iPod and have it last years (my previous one was roughly 4 years old before it met concrete at 70mph) vs. having to spend hundreds more on the largest iPhone every two years. Then the hassle of having to move my music from phone to phone every upgrade.

I can appreciate the iPhone meeting your needs, but to state the iPod is a waste for everyone is a bit of a false statement.
 
You forgot to add In my opinion. Sorry but, you couldn't be more wrong. There are people who don't want to spend over $600 for an iPhone. I, myself, own an iphone but also have a Nano and Shuffle for gym use. Don't wanna run with my phone.
 
The iPhone 6 is just as thin as the iPod, you will be carrying it with you everywhere, even to the gym. You can use your phone to listen to music while exercising. So, there you go, absolutely no reason to buy this thing.

This is ridiculous. If you have ever actually been to the gym or are a runner, you would know it sucks to lug an iPhone around for a music player. I suspect the shuffle at least will be kept around for this reason.
 
The artists and labels control those music services. At any point they can decide that they don't want any part of it and pluck their catalogue out of these services. It used to be that we didn't want to be forced to listen to whatever the radio stations wanted us to listen at that current moment, and now people are perfectly fine giving into that idea again.

It's perfectly fine if YOU don't want an iPod, but you're not going to dictate whether or not it is still a useful gadget for the rest of us.

Perfect example of this - Taylor Swift has removed all of her music from Spotify today. Not saying she's my bag or anything but it just proves your point.

I want to own my music, I enjoy curating my library. I have no interest in these services whatsoever.
 
The iPhone 6 is just as thin as the iPod, you will be carrying it with you everywhere, even to the gym. You can use your phone to listen to music while exercising. So, there you go, absolutely no reason to buy this thing. Same thing with an iPad.. Unless iPad has its own OS, save your money and only get the iPhone.
This is why we can't have nice things.

If people don't understand the value that the iPod line has it is no wonder why Apple discontinued the Classic and will probably discontinue the rest of the non-Touch iPods. :(
 
This is only applicable to certain people. Personally, I can't have any device at work with wifi, bluetooth, etc. Anything wireless is not allowed, so if I want to play music it HAS to be an iPod. And I want an iPod classic because I want something with*out* wireless capabilities but *with* lots and lots of storage. Plus it'll last years and it won't ever have to compete with photos and apps and the OS.
 
I recently sold my iPod Nano 7th gen. It was a decent device, but owning an Xperia Z3 Compact, an iPhone and a Moto G meant that I never really used it anymore.
 
Do I need an iPod? Need...no I don't. I have a 128gb 6 up from a 64gb 5 so I could potentially use that as my iPod.

Do I want a dedicated music player? Yes I still do, I like having a tiny device that contains thousands of songs that I can carry with me most places I go. I just prefer a dedicated device.

Whether Apple see a reason to keep producing them in terms of profitability I don't know and I may be in the majority.

Then again if you have an iPad do you need anything more than a normal phone? If you have an iPhone 6 do you need an iPad Mini?

Some things are just nice to have. :rolleyes:
 
I'm really surprised that Apple is still selling the iPod! Nobody was playing with the iPod the last time I went to an Apple store. iPod is a dinasour, just like Blackberry.

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So small children should just pony up the $499 for an iPhone?

You seem to be ignoring millions of people, young and old, that just want a music player. It costs money to add the cellular component into your equation - a lot.

"Same thing with an iPad"

You've gotta be joking at this point, right?

Give your kids ipads, ipads are only good for kids who don't need cellphones yet and also for older folks who are visually impaired.
 
The iPhone 6 is just as thin as the iPod, you will be carrying it with you everywhere, even to the gym. You can use your phone to listen to music while exercising. So, there you go, absolutely no reason to buy this thing. Same thing with an iPad.. Unless iPad has its own OS, save your money and only get the iPhone.

Er...what if you want to take 160GB of music with you? Or if you don't have/want an iPhone? Or if you want something smaller?
 
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