Thermal design waste of time, until 2019!

[questionwonder]

I guess Apple won't spend a whole lot of R&D on thermal issues for the 2018, being it's the last model before we see the 10nm CPU! Where we all know there will be a huge redesign for lots of new components, right?

Edit - why would Apple spend any time, any, when all new changes are a comin in 2019!

 

[Mathematig]

This update you expect maybe is up to Intel. As long as Apple use this thin design for MacBook Pro, I think it cannot handle high computing software. Let's see what model come out in 2019.

 

[Falhófnir]

This design actually has better cooling than the previous models, it handled the Quad core chips plus dGPU with aplomb - that intel have provided “45W” chips that dont seem to be able to operate effectively at that TDP doesn’t leave Apple with a lot of options outside of just not updating to them - which in itself would upset people.

 

[fokmik]

I guess Apple won't spend a whole lot of R&D on thermal issues for the 2018, being it's the last model before we see the 10nm CPU! Where we all know there will be a huge redesign for lots of new components, right?

Edit - why would Apple spend any time, any, when all new changes are a comin in 2019!

Until 2020 don't expect much...Probably 12" Macbook will get a redesign for the chassis and the internals in 2019, and after 1 year for the macbook pro

 

[Newtons Apple]

I guess Apple won't spend a whole lot of R&D on thermal issues for the 2018, being it's the last model before we see the 10nm CPU! Where we all know there will be a huge redesign for lots of new components, right?

Edit - why would Apple spend any time, any, when all new changes are a comin in 2019!

I think your worries are a bit too early. Apple will be using fans for a few more year, at least.

 

[maflynn]

why would Apple spend any time, any, when all new changes are a comin in 2019!

Huh? So you're saying apple shouldn't develop anything in 2018 because 2019 will have better chipsets?

 

[leman]

The next "due" redesign is 2020. If Intel manages to solve their 10mn woes, next year will bring faster CPUs at much better power consumption. From this perspective, I agree — it doesn't make much sense to redesign the chassis just for one generation of CPUs that tends to run too hot. There are too many things I don't understand though. Why does Apple's cooling solution handle Kaby Lake better then Dell XPS, but the XPS performs so much better with Coffee Lake? This doesn't make any sense to me. I believe there might be another issue in addition to heat. Hopefully a firmware bug that can be solved.

 

[maflynn]

The next "due" redesign is 2020.

I really wouldn't be surprised to see apple roll out ARM based laptops by then

 

[Painter2002]

I guess Apple won't spend a whole lot of R&D on thermal issues for the 2018, being it's the last model before we see the 10nm CPU! Where we all know there will be a huge redesign for lots of new components, right?

Edit - why would Apple spend any time, any, when all new changes are a comin in 2019!

Apple usually uses a body style for at least 4-5 model years, I don’t think we will see a major redesign for at least another 1-2 years. I’m expecting 2020-21 to be the next big redesign.
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believe there might be another issue in addition to heat. Hopefully a firmware bug that can be solved.

I tried suggesting this in one of the throttling threads but everyone else seems to disagree with this point. I think there is entirely a chance that some of the heat/throttling issues could be mitigated with a a future software update.

 

[Anarchy99]

I really wouldn't be surprised to see apple roll out ARM based laptops by then

for the MacBook or even the air maybe if it exists I doubt the MacBook Pro would that soon

 

[fokmik]

I really wouldn't be surprised to see apple roll out ARM based laptops by then

Yes, the 2019 12" MacBook probably will get ARM based with 20 hours battery usage