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gman901

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I currently have a 128 6S plus and thinking about moving to the Note 7. I once had the Note 5 and really liked it except there was no expandable storage and did not like the AT&T bloatware. I don't care about Samsung Pay because none of my cards work with it. Would I be better off buying the unactivated AT&T version at Best Buy that comes with the Gear Fit 2 or go for the international version on eBay for $850? I'm interested mainly in performance differences and if LTE will still work in the Orlando area.
 

dennysanders

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i don't understand the people that come to an Apple forum to ask about an Android device. are there no Android message boards?
 

nviz22

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Because I have apple products still and this forum states alternatives to iOS. I don't understand people who respond with absolutely useless information and can't read the the forum topic.

Ignore the previous post. You could do what MRU (MacRumors User, a fellow with a Fry Futurama icon) suggests to many folks: flash a bloat free rom without violating your warranty, thus making your Note 7 a carrier free device. However, the Snapdragon 820 bloat free won't be out for a bit, so that might take time. I suggest going for the AT&T version to take advantage of AT&T Wireless Calling, Band 30 LTE, etc. Just debloat it for now. Might want to go for a 256 GB SD Card instead of the Gear Fit 2 if you're concerned about getting the "best value" gift.

I made the permanent switch to the S7. The July patch messed up the battery, but the Note can do so much more. Do I miss some of the iOS UI, features, and Apple Apps? Sure, but the trade offs are so much more worth it. A ton of us have been former iOS daily driver users. It's only natural to want to switch given that the competition (Samsung, HTC, etc) have solid iterations and offer stuff Apple won't get till 2017 at the earliest. If you have anymore questions, feel free to reply. Welcome to the Galaxy family if you make the switch!
 

thelookingglass

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Ignore the previous post. You could do what MRU (MacRumors User, a fellow with a Fry Futurama icon) suggests to many folks: flash a bloat free rom without violating your warranty, thus making your Note 7 a carrier free device. However, the Snapdragon 820 bloat free won't be out for a bit, so that might take time. I suggest going for the AT&T version to take advantage of AT&T Wireless Calling, Band 30 LTE, etc. Just debloat it for now. Might want to go for a 256 GB SD Card instead of the Gear Fit 2 if you're concerned about getting the "best value" gift.

I made the permanent switch to the S7. The July patch messed up the battery, but the Note can do so much more. Do I miss some of the iOS UI, features, and Apple Apps? Sure, but the trade offs are so much more worth it. A ton of us have been former iOS daily driver users. It's only natural to want to switch given that the competition (Samsung, HTC, etc) have solid iterations and offer stuff Apple won't get till 2017 at the earliest. If you have anymore questions, feel free to reply. Welcome to the Galaxy family if you make the switch!

What exactly are the trade offs that make your experience so much better with the S7? I caved and got a Note 7, but am on the verge of going back. I just like how so much stuff works right out of the box for iPhones. Android is more customizable, but it's such a patchwork of different apps from who-knows-what kid working out of his mom's basement. Slight exaggeration of course, but I do slightly prefer Apple's much more polished presentation. The tight control means certain things aren't as flexible, but the overall experience is so much more consistent and stable.
 
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nviz22

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What exactly are the trade offs that make your experience so much better with the S7? I caved and got a Note 7, but am on the verge of going back. I just like how so much stuff works right out of the box for iPhones. Android is more customizable, but it's such a patchwork of different apps from who-knows-what kid working out of his mom's basement. Slight exaggeration of course, but I do slightly prefer Apple's much more polished presentation. The tight control means certain things aren't as flexible, but the overall experience is so much more consistent and stable.

Quick charge, a better camera, (if I had my wireless charger still, you have that), notification LED, predictive dialing, Samsung Pay Promos when it wasn't hacked, I like the UI design better than iOS, QHD screen, better battery life, water resistance, nicer designed phone, better widgets, SD slot, Touchwiz exclusive features like Smart Alert, easier ringtone creation, better file library, screen brightness, Google Now, and Samsung's power saving options.

All the iPhone offered me were iMessaging, faster updates, and reliability. I really always end up with Samsung because I like Touchwiz and the hardware.
 

mclld

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Because I have apple products still and this forum states alternatives to iOS. I don't understand people who respond with absolutely useless information and can't read the the forum topic.
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Mxbzz

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I dislike how you're paying the price of an unlocked model but still have AT&T bloat, along with the god awful AT&T logo on the back.

If Samsung follows the S7 trend, they'll release a true carrier-free version a few months later, but AT&T's HD voice and Wi-Fi calling are not compatible (the hardware is there, but AT&T uses unique software outside of the native Android implementation). If those are not essential to you, I'd opt for an international variant.
 

maxsix

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What exactly are the trade offs that make your experience so much better with the S7? I caved and got a Note 7, but am on the verge of going back. I just like how so much stuff works right out of the box for iPhones. Android is more customizable, but it's such a patchwork of different apps from who-knows-what kid working out of his mom's basement. Slight exaggeration of course, but I do slightly prefer Apple's much more polished presentation. The tight control means certain things aren't as flexible, but the overall experience is so much more consistent and stable.
Respectfully... If you're on the verge of going back so soon, you may not have the patience to learn the Android OS.

The beauty of Android is it's depth and breath of capabilities. Unlocked and open it offers a vast array of choices. Once you hone in on what works for you and your preferences, suddenly it's advantages become very compelling. Invest some time to learn it before you judge, it'll be very rewarding.

My Android 6.0.1 Nexus 6P experience is every bit as good and often better, smoother, and more consistent than iOS 9.3.5 on my iPhone 6S Plus. And that's _Not_ bashing the iPhone, just sharing my real world experience.
 

5105973

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Ignore the previous post. You could do what MRU (MacRumors User, a fellow with a Fry Futurama icon) suggests to many folks: flash a bloat free rom without violating your warranty, thus making your Note 7 a carrier free device. However, the Snapdragon 820 bloat free won't be out for a bit, so that might take time. I suggest going for the AT&T version to take advantage of AT&T Wireless Calling, Band 30 LTE, etc. Just debloat it for now. Might want to go for a 256 GB SD Card instead of the Gear Fit 2 if you're concerned about getting the "best value" gift.

I made the permanent switch to the S7. The July patch messed up the battery, but the Note can do so much more. Do I miss some of the iOS UI, features, and Apple Apps? Sure, but the trade offs are so much more worth it. A ton of us have been former iOS daily driver users. It's only natural to want to switch given that the competition (Samsung, HTC, etc) have solid iterations and offer stuff Apple won't get till 2017 at the earliest. If you have anymore questions, feel free to reply. Welcome to the Galaxy family if you make the switch!
Can you still flash the Rom with that Knox security thing on it? That's still far beyond my skill level. I'm just curious.
 

nviz22

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Can you still flash the Rom with that Knox security thing on it? That's still far beyond my skill level. I'm just curious.

Yeah, Knox shouldn't trigger since it's just doing a basic "update" to a phone. Even downgrading to a previous software version is an "upgrade" to a phone through download mode.
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I believe if you flash custom roms it trips knox and invalidates your warranty.

It won't. If it were the case, MRU wouldn't suggest it to others. Anyways, it's against the law to void a warranty in the US based off a Knox trip or any measure because they have to actively show the software changed caused hardware issues or software issues. Samsung is better off just accepting the onus to repair devices than to go line by line in command prompt to show bugs.
 

Shanghaichica

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Yeah, Knox shouldn't trigger since it's just doing a basic "update" to a phone. Even downgrading to a previous software version is an "upgrade" to a phone through download mode.
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It won't. If it were the case, MRU wouldn't suggest it to others. Anyways, it's against the law to void a warranty in the US based off a Knox trip or any measure because they have to actively show the software changed caused hardware issues or software issues. Samsung is better off just accepting the onus to repair devices than to go line by line in command prompt to show bugs.
I guess things are different in tbe states but in the UK Samsung have refused to fix phones for hardware defects if Knox has been tripped.
 

nviz22

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I guess things are different in tbe states but in the UK Samsung have refused to fix phones for hardware defects if Knox has verb tripped.

That violates EU law though. Even though Brexit occurred, you guys are still under the EU until the exit treaty comes to fruition next year. Now is the time to take it to Samsung because that 2 yr warranty protection has to be honored before the treaty agreement. That's how the UK will protect their consumers that make purchases from global conglomerates.
 

Shanghaichica

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That violates EU law though. Even though Brexit occurred, you guys are still under the EU until the exit treaty comes to fruition next year. Now is the time to take it to Samsung because that 2 yr warranty protection has to be honored before the treaty agreement. That's how the UK will protect their consumers that make purchases from global conglomerates.
It seems that the only way you can get Samsung to honour their warranty in the UK is to make a lot of noise on social media and blogs etc.
 

nviz22

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It seems that the only way you can get Samsung to honour their warranty in the UK is to make a lot of noise on social media and blogs etc.

Then by all means, do so if you need to. Samsung has to know that it is in direct violation of consumer protection laws and concepts that have been around for decades, if not a century or two.
 

heyyitssusan

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Alright guys I need help making a decision.

I've been wanting to try out the Galaxy s7 for awhile now.. Chatted with Verizon and they told me I can use my upgrade on it and try it for 14 days and return it by then if I don't like it. My thing is should I get the S7 or the Note 7? I'm afraid the note 7 is too big for me but the features on it seem to be top notch. I'm Apple everything so this transition is a little nerve wracking!
 

Mxbzz

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Jul 22, 2012
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Alright guys I need help making a decision.

I've been wanting to try out the Galaxy s7 for awhile now.. Chatted with Verizon and they told me I can use my upgrade on it and try it for 14 days and return it by then if I don't like it. My thing is should I get the S7 or the Note 7? I'm afraid the note 7 is too big for me but the features on it seem to be top notch. I'm Apple everything so this transition is a little nerve wracking!

Are you on a 6S+ right now? I would probably go for the Note 7 to get an idea if you could get used to the size and if you need all of the Note's features and you should have a clearer picture if you need a smaller device by your 14th day-- return the Note for an S7 / Edge.
 

heyyitssusan

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Are you on a 6S+ right now? I would probably go for the Note 7 to get an idea if you could get used to the size and if you need all of the Note's features and you should have a clearer picture if you need a smaller device by your 14th day-- return the Note for an S7 / Edge.

No, I just have the regular 6S, so the Galaxy S7 would be the most comparable size for me. But I do like your idea, that way I can realize then if I want to stick to the android eco system or not.
 

maxsix

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Alright guys I need help making a decision.

I've been wanting to try out the Galaxy s7 for awhile now.. Chatted with Verizon and they told me I can use my upgrade on it and try it for 14 days and return it by then if I don't like it. My thing is should I get the S7 or the Note 7? I'm afraid the note 7 is too big for me but the features on it seem to be top notch. I'm Apple everything so this transition is a little nerve wracking!
158.2 x 77.9 mm / 5.5" display - iPhone 6S Plus

153.5 x 73.9 mm / 5.7" display - Samsung Note 7


Notice how much smaller and compact the beautiful Note 7 is. Its larger 5.7" display is just gorgeous. Much higher resolution, excellent contrast and amazing responsiveness, I'm extremely happy with my Note 7.

My iPhone 6S Plus is a decent phone, but Android and Samsung have surpassed it.
 

rvinny

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My Android 6.0.1 Nexus 6P experience is every bit as good and often better, smoother, and more consistent than iOS 9.3.5 on my iPhone 6S Plus. And that's _Not_ bashing the iPhone, just sharing my real world experience.

In my experience - the one thing that is not better is all those ads when reading an article in Chrome. Content blockers in iOS and Safari are one of the best developments ever and rarely mentioned with switchers. Yet, every time I test drive Android, I find the constant ad-serving a real pain. How did you get around that? Or have you learned to live with it?

And I'm not really interested in a 3rd party browser. I want the same functionality (synched tabs and bookmarks) in Chrome as you get with Safari >> but NO ads!
 

mi7chy

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In my experience - the one thing that is not better is all those ads when reading an article in Chrome. Content blockers in iOS and Safari are one of the best developments ever and rarely mentioned with switchers. Yet, every time I test drive Android, I find the constant ad-serving a real pain. How did you get around that? Or have you learned to live with it?

And I'm not really interested in a 3rd party browser. I want the same functionality (synched tabs and bookmarks) in Chrome as you get with Safari >> but NO ads!

Ad blocking on Android has been around longer so more mature and it even works on 32-bit Android devices unlike iOS. For Chrome the usual recommendation is Adguard.

https://adguard.com/en/adguard-android/overview.html
 
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maxsix

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In my experience - the one thing that is not better is all those ads when reading an article in Chrome.

And I'm not really interested in a 3rd party browser. I want the same functionality (synched tabs and bookmarks) in Chrome as you get with Safari >> but NO ads!
I _only_ use Chrome... on my Androids, iOS, Mac and PC.

It's the fastest and best browser for my needs. Adguard is the blocker of choice, it's an ideal solution with no drawbacks. Especially effective in Marshmallow 6.0.1 I couldn't be happier.

I've owned every Nexus model upon its release since the first, the progress has been particularly impressive each year. There was a quantum leap forward in handset quality with this year's Nexus 6P. It's the first that's truly every bit as good in build quality and materials as my iP6S+.

Combined with the refinements in Android 6.0.1 it continually makes me smile. No crashing, no lag, fast smooth and ultra reliable, it's earned the designation as my Primary Smartphone.
 

Fernandez21

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In my experience - the one thing that is not better is all those ads when reading an article in Chrome. Content blockers in iOS and Safari are one of the best developments ever and rarely mentioned with switchers. Yet, every time I test drive Android, I find the constant ad-serving a real pain. How did you get around that? Or have you learned to live with it?

And I'm not really interested in a 3rd party browser. I want the same functionality (synched tabs and bookmarks) in Chrome as you get with Safari >> but NO ads!
I'm using the Samsung built in browser, I like it better than chrome and it has ad blocker extensions just like safari. I dont use chrome on my mac though, so not sure how to sync it though.
 
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