This COOKing apple isn't good to eat anymore...

[Bobby dazzler]

Hi all,

I've bought a lot of Apple tech over the years, but I believe the shine is going from them.

My iPhone 5s and my iPad mini with retina aren't able to run the new ios7 properly without me making small adjustments in setting to help them along.
Even then, pages on both of them is slow and not as smooth as I have come to expect from my iOS devices and they still both freeze and crash and have bouts of unresponsiveness.

It's extremely frustrating and reading through the forums, there's a lot of people having the same problems and other problems too...

There's a worm in the apple somewhere.

Personally, I think it all stems from the top.

I should like to predict that this is the beginning of the end for Apple, because they are alienating their very loyal core of customers.
If they don't do something soon to sort out the mess, Apple may soon be be pulped by Google etc...

 

[firedept]

Doomsday is upon us! Ahhh!!! I should have Googled that.

People come to forums with problems looking for solutions. Of course that is what you read about. You think people with everything in perfect working order are going to post? Come on now, you honestly think Apple is done for!

 

[Bobby dazzler]

I think that Apple's strongest uniqueness was that "it just works".

Now, it doesn't appear to be doing that quite so readily.

I'm not new to Apple. I've got loads of Apple tech and have seen and used many of them through several generations of hardware and software.

The fact is that my iPad and iPhone (both latest up to date models) are working less well than I am used to and they have not just become annoying to use, but I am using them less, because they are no longer a joy to use.

If Apple loses this uniqueness of "it just works" then there is little to ensure Client retention. Loyalty will be lost. Other tech companies will win out from this loss.

Apple will be more than bruised.

 

[maflynn]

My iPhone 5s and my iPad mini with retina aren't able to run the new ios7 properly without me making small adjustments in setting to help them along.

I think that Apple's strongest uniqueness was that "it just works".

I remember needing to make tweaks and updates to nearly all versions of OSX to get it to work the way I want it too. iOS was and is more locked down so I can't make much changes. I think people in general forget the bugs, and rough edges OSX had through the years. What about the older versions of iOS that was unable to multi task or cut and paste.

my point is, that its a bit myopic to criticize apple because things are not perfect now and they were back in the day, because back in the day they were not.

 

[Tyler23]

I think that Apple's strongest uniqueness was that "it just works".

Now, it doesn't appear to be doing that quite so readily.

I'm not new to Apple. I've got loads of Apple tech and have seen and used many of them through several generations of hardware and software.

The fact is that my iPad and iPhone (both latest up to date models) are working less well than I am used to and they have not just become annoying to use, but I am using them less, because they are no longer a joy to use.

If Apple loses this uniqueness of "it just works" then there is little to ensure Client retention. Loyalty will be lost. Other tech companies will win out from this loss.

Apple will be more than bruised.

Software bugs. Both devices run massively better on the iOS 7.1 betas. Public launch should be in the next 2-4 weeks. I suspect tyoill be much happier then.

 

[Shrink]

Doomsday is upon us! Ahhh!!! I should have Googled that.

People come to forums with problems looking for solutions. Of course that is what you read about. You think people with everything in perfect working order are going to post? Come on now, you honestly think Apple is done for!

Just to be the exception that proves the rule...I pretty much like everything about my Apple stuff!

 

[Renzatic]

All I want is a damn stylus for my iPad. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK, TIM?

 

[MacDawg]

It is trendy to jump on the "Apple is doomed" bandwagon
but I believe speculation on Apple's demise is still premature

 

[Renzatic]

It is trendy to jump on the "Apple is doomed" bandwagon
but I believe speculation on Apple's demise is still premature

Apple has such an unseemly amount of money on hand, they could screw up consistently for the next decade, and not have to worry about anything except the inevitable hit to their stock prices.

 

[firedept]

Just to be the exception that proves the rule...I pretty much like everything about my Apple stuff!

I am with you on that. Quite enjoy my Apple products. And if not there is most likely an app that can fix it for you.

 

[Mr Rabbit]

my point is, that its a bit myopic to criticize apple because things are not perfect now and they were back in the day, because back in the day they were not.

This. But not even that things are not perfect, but that they aren't perfect in the individual's eyes.

More often than not you'll find people who would be classified as power users, at least by their friends and families, on forums and tech sites. These are not the majority users, they are simply the most vocal. The majority of users clearly enjoy the minimalism and tweaks that iOS 7 and the iWork apps have brought about.

I say this as the Mac Admin for a large organization. Others in the IT department often groan about features being removed, settings being condensed, etc. The same is not true for our end users though, they often don't even notice or give praise to the changes.

It's not a Tim Cook thing, it's an Apple thing, it's basically the core of what Steve Jobs pushed for through his career.

 

[Bobby dazzler]

Hi all,

Yep, fair enough. All good points, well presented.

Perhaps it's the reticular activation system in my head, but I've not seen so many Apple customers considering jumping ship as I see now.

iOS7 hasn't been working well for me and sure, I've made adjustments to iOS to personalise it to my needs, but this time I've needed to make adjustments in settings to get the thing to work with reduced lag etc.
That's new. I've not needed to do that before and it's not because I need to upgrade the equipment.

iOS7 is truly annoying.
...if the screen starts to fade, you won't be able to unlock it - you just weren't quick enough. You'll just have to press the button and start all over again.
see what I mean?

 

[phrehdd]

Hi all,

I've bought a lot of Apple tech over the years, but I believe the shine is going from them.

My iPhone 5s and my iPad mini with retina aren't able to run the new ios7 properly without me making small adjustments in setting to help them along.
Even then, pages on both of them is slow and not as smooth as I have come to expect from my iOS devices and they still both freeze and crash and have bouts of unresponsiveness.

It's extremely frustrating and reading through the forums, there's a lot of people having the same problems and other problems too...

There's a worm in the apple somewhere.

Personally, I think it all stems from the top.

I should like to predict that this is the beginning of the end for Apple, because they are alienating their very loyal core of customers.
If they don't do something soon to sort out the mess, Apple may soon be be pulped by Google etc...

Apple has done over the years some pretty amazing things as demonstrated by what they have brought to market with the iPod, iPhone, iPad and moving to the Intel CPU along with OSX. What is sad that once these items were in the marketplace and eagerly snatched up and praised, Apple seems to have gone a course that has frustrated many a Apple fan.

Whether it was the short life of the first Mac Pro (Apple didn't really support that version of PCIe bus for long - 1.2) to insisting on form over function (as we see with the i devices that have particularly small text in menus even though there is plenty of room to provide far more readable point size all the way to the new Mac Pro which seems to now only please a subsection of Mac Pro owners (given the decision to provide only ATI's older GPU rather than a choice of ATI and NVidia).

I am unsure of Apple's decisions of form over function but I can say that what ever they are doing, they still have a very strong fan base due to lemming mentality AND of course what is positive - pretty much all of their products work well enough and often better than Microsoft, Samsung etc.

 

[barkmonster]

You have settings to change because Apple allow you to customise their OS to some degree. The first thing I did with iOS7 on my iPhone was enable bold type, disable push email, disable location services and disable find my iPhone.

In addition to this, I close background apps I'm not using by double clicking the home button and scrolling through the open apps.

This keeps iOS responsive and at least helps the abysmal battery life of iDevices.

Other than pitiful battery life vs usage time, my only other peave with iOS7 is that Safari not only crashes occassionally but has a tendency to refresh pages so something as simple as opening a webpage, copying some text, then moving to another open page to paste it is next to impossible. Also the retarded, "swipe left" back-button short cut in Safari drives me insane when navigating large webpages because it clashes with the ability to simply view the entire page!