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LoveMacMini

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Yea I'm a Windows, Linux, and former Mac user (god I hope leopard has a revamped finder CUT COMMAND!) and I'm sick and tired of BUT BUT MAC HAD IT FIRST, WINDOWS HAD IT FIRST, LINUX HAD IT FIRST

What are you guys, 10 years old?

Cars have 4 wheels but I'd be hard pressed for you to tell me the difference between a Honda and a Ferrari except for the fact that they have tires, a chair, and a steering wheel.

When it comes to the computer industry people build off each other. That's just it. Microsoft buys a lot of companies up for their software, Apple copies people’s functionality and rebrands it as their own, Linux just copies Apple and Windows and hopes to one day make a killer app that will make them break the 1% market share figure.

Who you like more is your choice. Both companies have done some shady things. Microsoft buys up the little guys, but hey at least they get paid. Apple just copies the little guys so hey they loose a job. And Linux people just do everything for the fun of it so I can't insult them too much.

Software is built on the shoulders of giants. It's why we aren't in 1984 anymore and our OS could fit on a floppy disk. Now Mac's need an entire DVD to give you all the goodies that is OS X.

So please, just drop it. In the end no one but the 13 year olds in their basements drinking mountain dew will care about who came out with what first. What matters is who best implements the feature.

As it is, I personally think the keynote stunk. no I wasn't looking forward to a new ipod, no I wasn't looking forward to a new imac, I wish they spent the entire 90 minutes talking about leopard and how revolutionary it was going to be. Instead it's like watching 2 16 year old girls fight over which boy band is better.

I’ll shut my mouth about vista, and about os x leopard. I will judge the both of them when they are released. Until then stop the bloody feature war because it isn't important.
 

FullmetalZ26

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LoveMacMini said:
Cars have 4 wheels but I'd be hard pressed for you to tell me the difference between a Honda and a Ferrari except for the fact that they have tires, a chair, and a steering wheel.

Hondas don't have those? (I wouldn't know, I buy American :p )

There will always be the fanboys though, like it or not. The Mac OS variety just tend to be louder/snobbier in groups because the much larger group of Windows fanboys are always mercilessly/baselessly putting them down. I'd make an example, but we've all seen such arguments far too many times as it is...
 

zephead

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Apr 27, 2006
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FINALLY, somebody who knows what they're talking about! I mean, this war about who copied who and who had what first but then the other company stole it, it's a never-ending war, isn't it?
 

Chundles

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Honda Civic:

CivicSedan_ex.jpg


Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano

ferrari_f599_gtb_fiorano_front.jpg


So, from what I could tell, the Ferrari loses two doors but gains 8 extra cylinders and two models.

I'd rather the Fazza...:D :D
 

Counterfit

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Chundles said:
So, from what I could tell, the Ferrari loses two doors but gains 8 extra cylinders and two models.
It also loses a couple seconds off of acceleration times, but adds nearly 100MPH to the top speed, a few MPH in the slalom, and a couple tenths of a G in the skidpad.
 

bousozoku

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I've given up on a lot of firsts being the intellectual property of the people who made them popular.

Apple has many times made other companies' technology popular, such as wireless networking and USB.

It looks as though the U.S. Patent Office even ends up granting patents to those who aren't first.

In any case, it doesn't matter if Apple or Microsoft or someone else originated the idea as long as it just works. When I saw the V.P. of R&D in the keynote the other day quip about how calendar and address book, etc. look nearly the same on Vista, I thought about a thread we had here and how useless it was, too. There are only so many ways to do things.

If Leopard would just implement some nice features that are in Windows, it would help a lot. The cut function in Finder would be good and so would rename and delete in navigational controls such as open and save dialog boxes.
 

Project

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Well, it starts with the top line. Apple themselves are perhaps the biggest guilty party here

lol
 

LoveMacMini

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I swear if the new finder works exactly like explorer does in windows then i'm going to camp out in front of the store and become a rabid mac fanboy.

but that won't happen since apple is about ease of use, which i think they made it so easy that the majority of mac users feel constrained by the finder.

i never have more than 2 explorer windows open. even then only the really complex stuff takes 2 windows, i live in one window. yet on a mac i can often have 5+

why why why why!
 

bousozoku

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LoveMacMini said:
I swear if the new finder works exactly like explorer does in windows then i'm going to camp out in front of the store and become a rabid mac fanboy.

but that won't happen since apple is about ease of use, which i think they made it so easy that the majority of mac users feel constrained by the finder.

i never have more than 2 explorer windows open. even then only the really complex stuff takes 2 windows, i live in one window. yet on a mac i can often have 5+

why why why why!

I wrote somewhere else today that it would be good if Finder windows could be split into multiple panes, each showing different parts of the folder. That would be a big help.

If Finder upsets you that much, try Macintosh Explorer. It's like that other Explorer. :)
 

Lollypop

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LoveMacMini said:
Instead it's like watching 2 16 year old girls fight over which boy band is better.


As much as I agree with you that the war has to stop it never will, there will always be a new generation of 16 year old girls fighting over which boy band is better, and their will always be a group of fanboys that will defent their OS of choice like they were a bunch of 16 year old girls. Ive said it in another thread, its about inovation, after that everyone copies it, and all the fans get upset about it, but its that ability to copy that drives the industry forward.
 
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