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TigerMSTR

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iOS Dev here. On my 2017 MacBook Pro, starting one iOS simulator would have my computer running hot, sounding like a jet engine. Two iOS simulators would grind the machine to a near halt. Running three iOS simulators was basically unheard of.

On my fanless M1 Air, I'm compiling code, running three iOS simulators, a node server, and the computer is connected to a 4K display with the laptop being used as a secondary display. There has been no drop in performance whatsoever. Frame rates remain at a constant 60 fps. And the MacBook Air remains cool to the touch. I don't mean its just a little warm.... I mean the chassis is literally cool to the touch.

I'm stunned. I never thought this type of performance would be possible on a laptop, let alone a fanless MacBook Air. If you're on the fence about the M1 Macs, just do it. The M1 hype is real.
 

alien3dx

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iOS Dev here. On my 2017 MacBook Pro, starting one iOS simulator would have my computer running hot, sounding like a jet engine. Two iOS simulators would grind the machine to a near halt. Running three iOS simulators was basically unheard of.

On my fanless M1 Air, I'm compiling code, running three iOS simulators, a node server, and the computer is connected to a 4K display with the laptop being used as a secondary display. There has been no drop in performance whatsoever. Frame rates remain at a constant 60 fps. And the MacBook Air remains cool to the touch. I don't mean its just a little warm.... I mean the chassis is literally cool to the touch.

I'm stunned. I never thought this type of performance would be possible on a laptop, let alone a fanless MacBook Air. If you're on the fence about the M1 Macs, just do it. The M1 hype is real.

hype is average , im developer also now forcing myself on swift ui from last time swift programmatic.

Yes , ios simulator quite fast but still status simulator not emulator which i dream on. Android emulator in beta .

homebrew still some struggle
 

the8thark

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@TigerMSTR

How long are your coding sessions on the M1?
Why I am asking is after a longer session or more demanding session does the heat increase?
Is the performance constant throughout for you? Because there's no fan to help with all of this, do you ever see CPU throttling of any kind?
 

TigerMSTR

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@TigerMSTR

How long are your coding sessions on the M1?
Why I am asking is after a longer session or more demanding session does the heat increase?
Is the performance constant throughout for you? Because there's no fan to help with all of this, do you ever see CPU throttling of any kind?
Several hours. Throttling isn't an issue. I've never seen this computer throttle ever. Pretty sure that nothing in my development workflow will make this laptop throttle at this point. So I really don't see any benefit of the MPB over the MBA, other than marginally better battery life.
 

TigerMSTR

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My only annoyance with the MBA for software development is that Xcode absolutely decimates the battery. I estimate that you could probably get five hours of Xcode out of this thing before the battery runs dead. That's more a criticism of Xcode though, rather than the MBA hardware.

For wireless web and other non-intensive tasks though, the battery life is as advertised: I'm getting around 12 to 14 hours.
 

thejadedmonkey

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OP, do you have enough RAM? I'm on a maxed out 2018 MBP, and I've flat out forgotten that I was running multiple simulators before, they just kind of fade into the background.

Now Android studio, that's another story. That + a single emulator is keeping my lap nice and warm right now.
 

Apple_Robert

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iOS Dev here. On my 2017 MacBook Pro, starting one iOS simulator would have my computer running hot, sounding like a jet engine. Two iOS simulators would grind the machine to a near halt. Running three iOS simulators was basically unheard of.

On my fanless M1 Air, I'm compiling code, running three iOS simulators, a node server, and the computer is connected to a 4K display with the laptop being used as a secondary display. There has been no drop in performance whatsoever. Frame rates remain at a constant 60 fps. And the MacBook Air remains cool to the touch. I don't mean its just a little warm.... I mean the chassis is literally cool to the touch.

I'm stunned. I never thought this type of performance would be possible on a laptop, let alone a fanless MacBook Air. If you're on the fence about the M1 Macs, just do it. The M1 hype is real.
That is a very good hands on example of the power and ability of the M1.

Apple has made working and playing with the Mac fun again.
 
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Doug.b

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Similar story here with my MBP, I have been setting up my laptop over the past day w/ Goland, Intellij, and a slew of dev tools/servers and haven't ran into any blockers. There have been some weird issues with getting Redis to work, but running Terminal in rosetta mode solved that quickly.

The only time this got hot was after playing Age of Empires 2 DE through Crossover, and that was on 'Ultra' settings, but that may have also been due to me playing on my bed for half of the game so the thermals couldn't work correctly.
 
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Coheebuzz

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Right on, i've never felt so confident while using a computer in my entire life, and it's not the speed that does it but its quietness, coolness or generally speaking the total absence of physical negative feedback of sorts, it encourages you to hammer it as if it was the most expensive pro machine.
 

darngooddesign

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Several hours. Throttling isn't an issue. I've never seen this computer throttle ever. Pretty sure that nothing in my development workflow will make this laptop throttle at this point. So I really don't see any benefit of the MPB over the MBA, other than marginally better battery life.
The M1 Air doesn't throttle till the CPU is around 93C.
 

macintoshmac

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iOS Dev here. On my 2017 MacBook Pro, starting one iOS simulator would have my computer running hot, sounding like a jet engine. Two iOS simulators would grind the machine to a near halt. Running three iOS simulators was basically unheard of.

On my fanless M1 Air, I'm compiling code, running three iOS simulators, a node server, and the computer is connected to a 4K display with the laptop being used as a secondary display. There has been no drop in performance whatsoever. Frame rates remain at a constant 60 fps. And the MacBook Air remains cool to the touch. I don't mean its just a little warm.... I mean the chassis is literally cool to the touch.

I'm stunned. I never thought this type of performance would be possible on a laptop, let alone a fanless MacBook Air. If you're on the fence about the M1 Macs, just do it. The M1 hype is real.

Would you kindly update the title of your thread to "This M1 is incredible" to make it more descriptive? As of right now, feels like a click-bait.

And yes, M1 is a serious advancement for the Mac. Enjoy your new Air! I hope to update my trusty old 2017 Air to an M chipset when this one fails on me or stops getting macOS upgrades, whichever comes first.
 

ratspg

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The MBA M1 is the best laptop I’ve ever used. Almost two months in and I’m still amazed at how snappy it is and the battery life is still ridiculous.
 

TigerMSTR

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OP, do you have enough RAM? I'm on a maxed out 2018 MBP, and I've flat out forgotten that I was running multiple simulators before, they just kind of fade into the background.

Now Android studio, that's another story. That + a single emulator is keeping my lap nice and warm right now.
OP, what configuration you have?
16 GB, 512 GB, 7 Core GPU

Right on, i've never felt so confident while using a computer in my entire life, and it's not the speed that does it but its quietness, coolness or generally speaking the total absence of physical negative feedback of sorts, it encourages you to hammer it as if it was the most expensive pro machine.
Yeah, this is the first laptop computer I've owned where I felt that there was absolutely nothing I could do in my workflow to make it feel slow. I suppose this thing might get a little sluggish with gaming, but I'm not a gamer, so that's totally irrelevant to me.

A huge upgrade from my "old" MacBook Pro, which would have the fans spinning if I dared to watch a YouTube video.
 
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ratspg

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16 GB, 512 GB, 7 Core GPU


Yeah, this is the first laptop computer I've owned where I felt that there was absolutely nothing I could do in my workflow to make it feel slow. I suppose this thing might get a little sluggish with gaming, but I'm not a gamer, so that's totally irrelevant to me.

A huge upgrade from my "old" MacBook Pro, which would have the fans spinning if I dared to watch a YouTube video.
Isn't it awesome? haha sorry I still can't get over how much better this is than any Mac I have.
 
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