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purdnost

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It's taking literally hours to upload my RAW images. I'm lucky if I can upload ten in a day, and this is over a 250 Mbps wired fiber connection. What's the hold up?
 

-Gonzo-

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Nov 14, 2015
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You may have 250 Mbps for your download speed but what’s your upload speed?
I’ve got 100 Mbps myself but my upload is only 5 Mbps.
 

purdnost

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Dec 2, 2018
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You may have 250 Mbps for your download speed but what’s your upload speed?
I’ve got 100 Mbps myself but my upload is only 5 Mbps.
Sorry, I failed to specify that that is the upload speed! I used a speed test website to verify. All my other images upload reasonably fast, but these RAW images... man, it's like one every hour. I don't know what's happening.
 

casperes1996

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Jan 26, 2014
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Sorry, I failed to specify that that is the upload speed! I used a speed test website to verify. All my other images upload reasonably fast, but these RAW images... man, it's like one every hour. I don't know what's happening.

Seriously? What's your downlink speed?

Anyways, keeping focus;
There are many links in the chain of networking. Whilst 10 in a day sounds extremely low, you may be very far from an Apple Data center, your ISP may give low priority to that connection, Apple may not have allocated a lot of resources to that part of iCloud for your area due to low demand, there could be high traffic on the server setup these days and so on.

But I certainly get better results than that, though I wouldn't call it fast. I can probably do 50 in an hour. Still not fast, but significantly faster. And my upload speed is around 45-50.
 

purdnost

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Seriously? What's your downlink speed?

Anyways, keeping focus;
There are many links in the chain of networking. Whilst 10 in a day sounds extremely low, you may be very far from an Apple Data center, your ISP may give low priority to that connection, Apple may not have allocated a lot of resources to that part of iCloud for your area due to low demand, there could be high traffic on the server setup these days and so on.

But I certainly get better results than that, though I wouldn't call it fast. I can probably do 50 in an hour. Still not fast, but significantly faster. And my upload speed is around 45-50.
On a good day, 250 up, 250 down. But, on not so good days, maybe 150 down. I'm in Salt Lake City, Utah. I think Apple has a data center in Oregon, if I'm not mistaken. I suppose I could call up my ISP and get some insight from them. When you say you're getting 45-50 per hour, are those RAW format images?
 

swandy

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Oct 27, 2012
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Somethings not right. My speed is less than that and I recently took around 125 photos (RAW+JPEG pairs) and it took maybe 30-40 minutes for all the photos to be uploaded to my iCloud Photo Library.
 

MacUser2525

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Instead of guessing and use number of photos transferred, install something like iStat Menus and get a real reading of your transfer speeds as it happens. Oh when looking at the numbers it gives you it is bytes not bits that your ISP used to make you think you get faster connection. You need to divide by 8 to get a proper comparison if 100 from ISP it is 12.5 in iStat.
 

MacUser2525

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iStat can be set to B or b. So it's not necessarily a case of dividing by 8 - check the settings.

That shows how much I care about the lies told by those in the tech industry. Never thought of searching for a way to confirm their method of deceiving you, just like the slimy hard drive manufacturers and their base 10 capacity numbers instead of 2 which makes the drive appear 8% bigger. Oh and in Pathfinder I have searched and checked the setting that tells the true capacity of the items listed in base 2.

Edit: Not base ten that is the wrong terminology I think, it should be decimal and binary for the 2.
 

zorinlynx

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May 31, 2007
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Uploading to iCloud has always been slow-ish. The issue is on Apple's end and the CDN, not your connection. You just have to be patient and let it do its thing. Once it's uploaded, downloads are really quick.

This is one of the main issues I've had with iCloud, but it's not really a showstopper for me. However, I can see it being a problem for a pro who might take a hundred raws and want to upload them quickly.
 

purdnost

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So, I decided to create a fresh new library and sync what I currently have in iCloud (optimized, so I'm just downloading thumbnails and metadata). So, I currently have around 25k photos in iCloud, and I'm trying to get an additional 170k imported. Since creating the new library, importing the photos in smaller batches seems to be working as far as uploading to iCloud goes. Before, I imported all of them, and uploading seemed very unreliable... so Photos seems to choke with a vast amount of pending uploads. Only problem now is, I'll have to manually attend to the upload process, which is going to take a lot longer. I wonder if the new macOS addresses this issue.
 

swandy

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Oct 27, 2012
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After the initial upload of a library which is slow it is pretty reliable in my experience - at least from my iMac. Sometimes has issues when doing it from an iOS device but eventually all the devices seem to sync.
 

purdnost

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Dec 2, 2018
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I wonder if the stall has to do with the fact that I'm running my library from an external hard drive?
 

swandy

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Oct 27, 2012
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I wonder if the stall has to do with the fact that I'm running my library from an external hard drive?
That does slow the process down. I ended up - when I got the new 2019 iMac and discovered that Photos was running MUCH slower on it than my 2015 iMac - getting an external SSD drive and VIOLA, everything sped up dramatically, including uploads.
 
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