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Thunderbolt card for Mac Pro 4,1
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There are currently no PCI-E Thunderbolt cards for the MP. If you use the forum search you will see other discussions about this.
The only known Thunderbolt card so far..
You can see the card in this blog article & video on 4K editing from Adobe (part of their 7.1 update announcement)
http://blogs.adobe.com/davtechtable/2013/09/whats-new-in-the-oct-2013-pro-video-cc-releases.html
Video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UrxEx8ICqME#t=467
The card requires a special connector on the motherboard as part of the Intel Spec. More discussions on the RED Forums and Creative Cow
hope this helps.
You can see the card in this blog article & video on 4K editing from Adobe (part of their 7.1 update announcement)
http://blogs.adobe.com/davtechtable/2013/09/whats-new-in-the-oct-2013-pro-video-cc-releases.html
Video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UrxEx8ICqME#t=467
The card requires a special connector on the motherboard as part of the Intel Spec. More discussions on the RED Forums and Creative Cow
hope this helps.
a new Thunderbolt option for the HP Z820 & Z620
Not sure how this option for a PC would help a MP user... (?)
Not sure how this option for a PC would help a MP user... (?)
I think he's trying to explain *why* there will never be a TB card for a 4,1 MP
Unfortunately there never will be an option to retro fit thunderbolt to a pre nMP Mac Pro as it requires support in the logic board itself (the chipset has to be thunderbolt ready so to speak).
I guess its like trying to add fingerprint support to the start button on an iphone 4 - the hardware just cannot support it, as it needs to be baked in at manufacture.
Its a shame, and is a big factor in why I am selling my beast to get a nMP or new iMac, we have thunderbolt storage that my main machine cannot fully utilise
I guess its like trying to add fingerprint support to the start button on an iphone 4 - the hardware just cannot support it, as it needs to be baked in at manufacture.
Its a shame, and is a big factor in why I am selling my beast to get a nMP or new iMac, we have thunderbolt storage that my main machine cannot fully utilise
Lots of comments back from 2013 just reading every single TB pci expansion card the riot act and even claiming such a thing can never be built to be reliable. Sounds pretty dramatic...
Fast forward to 2017.
What options do we have today and is one of them recommended by anyone?
Fast forward to 2017.
What options do we have today and is one of them recommended by anyone?
There are no options. It is not possible, as people have said many times now, including this thread.
Even on PC's for thunderbolt to work the mothboard has to have a thunderbolt header (plug) for it to work. That era Mac Pro does not have that header as it predates thunderbolt.
Even if you installed a thunderbolt card. The computer can't talk to it.
Even if you installed a thunderbolt card. The computer can't talk to it.
If you'd like to McGyver it you could pick up a cheap Mac Mini (the later ones have TB) and start it in Target Mode, hooked by FireWire/USB to your cMP. I don't know how fast it would be but you'd have connectivity (of a sort).
Wish I'd thought about it when the local pawn shop had a couple of WD 4Tb TB drives. But for 4Tb drives they wanted too much.
Ironic that the machine Light Peak was developed on, never got it officially.
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I know you can chain FW800 to FW400 by having a machine in the middle with both. Has to have power but doesn't actually have to be on. Wonder if it's the same for FW to TB..
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I know you can chain FW800 to FW400 by having a machine in the middle with both. Has to have power but doesn't actually have to be on. Wonder if it's the same for FW to TB..
Same thing applies. With USB3 or eSATA or internal nvme adapters what is the real benefit of TB?
If you need to move large files or lots and I mean lots of files from a computer to an external drive or vice versa really quickly. I was watching a video of a photographer who when backing up his files at the end of a location shoot from his laptop to a external drive he said thunderbolt sped his transfer time from 30 minutes with usb to 5 with thunderbolt.
Putting a Mac Mini, or any thunderbolt equippped Mac into target disk mode will not provide any thunderbolt connectivity to a Mac Pro.
That kinds of difference most likely is coming from the drive (e.g. SSD vs HDD), but not the connecting method.
Even a $20 PCIe USB 3.0 card can let a cheap SATA SSD write at ~500MB/s. 6x faster means 3000MB/s. Do you think it make sense? Which "normal price" external drive has this kind of speed?
I don't know which video you refer to, but may be he compared a USB HDD to a Thinderbolt SSD. In this case, ~100MB/s vs ~550MB/s. Very close to that 6x improvement.
If he actually used a USB 3.0 SSD. 500MB/s, write for 30min.
500x60x30 ~ 900GB. Which also doesn't sounds right for normal photos work.
I think the same as h9826790. This sounds like a comparison of USB 2.0 to TB or some similar mismatch.
The photographer I was talking about is working with 100 megapixel phase one medium format files.
I may have either miss quoted his times or he was exaggerating to make a point.
Not sure what drives he was using in the past, but the photographers I pay attention to are thunderbolt users and all use thunderbolt for that purpose, fast file transfer between devices externally.
I may have either miss quoted his times or he was exaggerating to make a point.
Not sure what drives he was using in the past, but the photographers I pay attention to are thunderbolt users and all use thunderbolt for that purpose, fast file transfer between devices externally.
Well for that we have the flashSSD, or 4x on an Amfeltec card, to speed up things, even faster than TB3 can.
Using a flashSSD as Scratchdisk will illiminate the need for TB.
Backing up to a HDD is no problem, because by then you finished your project.
ps, when I move a folder with dslr clips from my scratchdisk (SM951) it takes less than 30 seconds for 32Gb.