Time for a new sticky thread for Apple Silicon App support?

[ADGrant]

Instead of tracking which apps have Apple Silicon support, isn't it time to track those that don't. At this point, AS support should be assumed. The last version of macOS to support Intel has just been announced along with the sunsetting of Rosetta2 once MacOS has transitioned to supporting only Apple Silicon.

It might also be time soon to move discussion of Intel Macs to a legacy forum alongside the PowerPC Macs and the early Intel Macs.?

 

[VitoBotta]

I haven't used not even installed Rosetta 2 in a long time. I am a developer and absolutely all the apps I have been using for the past couple of years, at least, are native on Apple Silicon.

 

[ADGrant]

I haven't used not even installed Rosetta 2 in a long time. I am a developer and absolutely all the apps I have been using for the past couple of years, at least, are native on Apple Silicon.

I doubt many people use more than one or two apps that don't have Apple Silicon support. It would be so much more useful knowing what those are rather than wading though a thread with a thousand posts listing what apps support Apple Silicon.

Might also be interesting to know what apps don't run on Intel Macs anymore. It could include iPad apps that run on Apple Silicon Macs but don't have an Intel Mac equivalent.

 

[johnprogrammer]

Rosetta is needed for Steam games on Mac. All the old good ones, are for Intel Macs.

An example of games running on Rosetta, is Grid Autosport, and performs well.

Perhaps Steam itself is running on Rosetta.

 

[pshufd]

There are two programs that I use that run very poorly on Apple Silicon.

The first one is Intuit TurboTax and it's a program with a ton of users. It runs under Rosetta 2 and I ran it on my iMac Pro (Intel) this year and it was a lot better than running it on my Mac Studio last year. I will run it on my iMac Pro again next year if there isn't a native Apple Silicon version. Intuit only supports the latest two versions of macOS so I will have to run it on Windows if they don't port by 2027.

The other one is Fidelity Active Trader Pro. I make most of my income from this program and it's a native Windows x64 program that runs on macOS via Wine and on Apple Silicon via Wine and Rosetta 2. Performance on my M1 Max Studio is about 50% compared to my i7-10700 Windows desktop. I estimate that there would be about a 17% deficit running on an M4 Max Studio. So I run this program on Windows at home and just suffer with the performance on the road.

They launched a beta of a portable version but it's buggy and lacking many of the features of the released version and it doesn't look like it's going to be released this year given the state of the program. They have $4.9 trillion AUM so they certainly have the money; but they seem to be more focused on mobile rather than desktop.

I have been thinking about buying a Windows laptop for the road as I could run this and my other stuff nicely on Windows. Not having iCloud would be a problem but I could use that on my iPhone. Performance improvement from my desktop would be about 100% with modern Ryzen mobile CPUs.

I just went through Activity Monitor looking for Intel programs and found only one and it's part of macOS. It's called WardsSynthesizer and it's apparently the voice synthesizer when you do text to speech which is something I use regularly. As Brian Tong says, That's a Baaaad Apple.

 

[dmccloud]

Rosetta is needed for Steam games on Mac. All the old good ones, are for Intel Macs.

An example of games running on Rosetta, is Grid Autosport, and performs well.

Perhaps Steam itself is running on Rosetta.

The current Steam beta is AS-native, but the release version is still using Rosetta 2. Beyond that, a lot of older Mac games will not run at all on Apple Silicon because they were never updated to 64-bit binaries.