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Robert4

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Apr 20, 2012
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Hello,

Hate to admit it, but haven't noticed, or thought about, this
in the last few years. Old age problem. Not too sharp with this "stuff" anymore.

I see that I have a Folder labeled Time Machine.
I seem to remember that I have/had an external HD hooked up to
the mac for this. Seems to be one; likely for this purpose ?

Am I right that it is "supposed to" backup everything ?
Automatically ?

It appears that it hasn't done "anything" since 2022 !

Might it be "full" ?

If anyone could explain what Time Machine is, what it is
supposed to do, etc., would be most appreiative.

BTW: I also seem to have Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) also.
Again, many years old.
Does this also automaticslly back up ?

Much Thanks,
Bob
 
Time Machine discs generally won't reach "full." When the disc runs out of room, TM starts deleting the older copies of files that are backed up to replace them with newer versions (this is- in effect- cutting how far "back in time" you can go if you want to retrieve an older version(s) of some file). So it should never run out of room assuming the TM disc is bigger than the Mac disc(s) to be backed up (ideally at least 3X-4X bigger or more). There are occasionally posts about people's TM disc reporting "full." If yours is, you might reformat it to blank and make it a fresh TM backup again. Again, "full" should not occur when everything is working right and you have abundant TM space (bigger than the Mac(s) to be backed up... ideally much bigger).

Assuming your TM disc is still attached to the Mac you want to back up, maybe the enclosure needs to be rebooted?

Are enclosure indicator lights on and everything looks right? Maybe the enclosure is dead? Do you see the TM disc as available to you in Finder, which will show you it is still connected? If you click on that disc in Finder, will it open so you know the drive is accessible?

Is TM app turned on in Apple (icon menu), System Settings, General tab, Time Machine? Do you see your TM disc at the top? Does "Backups" show today's date and up to about an hour ago or something else? If you see no disc there, click the + button and then select your TM disc to show Mac where you want TM to store its backups. It may want to make a fresh backup and- depending on how much you have on your Mac- that can take many hours the first time. Just let it do it (perhaps while you sleep overnight). Subsequent (and automatic) backups on the hour should be very quick.

You probably have a TM icon up in the upper right menu bar. It looks like the hands of a clock with a counter-clockwise-pointing arrow around it. If so, click on that. The menu that opens should show some information about last backup and an option to "Back Up Now." Try clicking that option and then see what happens. It will either start backing up now or prompt you regarding why it can't.

TM backs up just about everything. Some things that can be downloaded from Apple's servers aren't backed up but drawn from Apple in a "restore everything" scenario such as a dead/stolen Mac getting replaced. But your own creations/data should be backed up in TM (as Apple wouldn't be storing any of that).

CCC is an alternative to TM. I believe it too can be set to do automatic backups like TM. Many people like to use both:
  • TM auto-backups to one disk
  • CCC (or SuperDuper) to another disk
It is a very good idea to have at least TWO backups of your Mac(s), ideally with one stored offsite such as in a bank safe deposit box. The offsite one should be regularly rotated with the onsite backup disc so that BOTH are pretty fresh backups. This strategy protects against very real threats like fire/flood/theft where BOTH Mac and the TM/CCC backup at home are lost. That offsite recently-up-to-date copy then "saves" you. Key here is regular rotation so that your latest new files are on that offsite backup.

For example, if you delay this rotation 6 months and there is a fire/flood/theft, you lose up to the last 6 months of new files/data in a restore from the offsite backup. On the other hand, if you rotate the 2 backup disks- say- monthly, your worst case scenario is losing up to the last 30 days or so of newest files/data.

I hope this is helpful to get your data protected again. I strongly suggest you heed that (at least) 2 backups tip too. The most common ways data is lost for many are ways that take out your Mac and a TM disc right next to it at the same time. As little as just ONE+ offsite fresh backup will save that terrible day. And gigantic HDD storage is dirt cheap.
 
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Hello,

Hate to admit it, but haven't noticed, or thought about, this
in the last few years. Old age problem. Not too sharp with this "stuff" anymore.

I see that I have a Folder labeled Time Machine.
I seem to remember that I have/had an external HD hooked up to
the mac for this. Seems to be one; likely for this purpose ?
Is there in fact an external drive plugged into your computer?

Am I right that it is "supposed to" backup everything ?
Automatically ?

It appears that it hasn't done "anything" since 2022 !
You can tell this how, by the dates of the backup files you see there?

Might it be "full" ?
That itself wouldn't necessarily be a problem. If a Time Machine backup drive gets full, it just deletes old backups until it has room to make a new backup.

If anyone could explain what Time Machine is, what it is
supposed to do, etc., would be most appreiative.
It backs up (makes copies of) your files to an external drive automatically at regular intervals. By default it's once every hour I believe. That can be changed in later macOS versions to once a day or once a week.

Go to the Apple menu (upper-left on your screen), then open System Settings and type "time machine" into the search bar there. It'll bring up a screen that shows you what, if any, Time Machine drive you have connected, when it last backed up, etc. This might tell you what's going on and why it apparently hasn't been backing up recently.

BTW: I also seem to have Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) also.
Again, many years old.
Does this also automaticslly back up ?
CCC can be configured to back up automatically, but it's a bit more work to set up than Time Machine. My hunch is it's not set up to do that unless you remember doing it.
 
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