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MacModMachine

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currently i have had a huge magsafe fire...and apple has given me 2600 cad + tax in credit.

for my old notebook and damages.

now, here is what i normally use my notebook for.

i use it mobile ALOT, i hook it up to a 23" lcd when i get home.

i do light stuff on it usually , finances , web browsing , some virtual machines.

would i be better off with a mini at home (for my apple tv) hooked up to my 23" and the mba for my mobile purposes.

is the mbp a hot running machine ? , strong ?
 

aleksandra.

macrumors 6502a
Sep 13, 2008
674
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Warsaw, Poland
Nothing's better than Air for light stuff on the go ;). As long as you don't expect too much (games, video editing, this sort of thing), you're going to love it. It isn't upgradeable so you need to know its limitations beforehand... no faster SSD or more RAM along the way.
 

SeanU

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Feb 2, 2009
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The main downsides

1) You can't go higher than 2gb of ram on the MBA
2) The upgrade paths for the HDD are limited
3) No firewire, only 1 usb port.

The upside...

It weighs 1.5 pounds less, and it is thin.

If weight is your #1 concern, then go with the MBA.
 

DoNoHarm

macrumors 65816
Oct 8, 2008
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in addition to use, i think the MBA/MBP debate depends on your buying habits. Even though the MBA is cutting edge now, it's going to get old faster than the MBP. What I mean by this is that the expanding area these days is towards smaller laptops. the tablet pc is just around the corner... So soon the MBA will just be a slow and not so small computer. The MBP while larger, will be able to run many programs 4-5 years down the road but you'll be lugging around the extra lbs.

If you're well off, and can afford a computer upgrade every two years, go for the mba. if not the pro is the more sensible choice.
 

FilipH

macrumors regular
May 19, 2008
106
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Apple Land
Keep in mind that although the MBA is very mobile and light, the battery life isn't that great. The MBP, although a lot heavier, does have a longer lasting battery life. I love my MBA for travelling around the house with it.

But the non-removable and sloooow charging battery don't make it my number one mobile choice though.
 

faxao

macrumors regular
Feb 20, 2008
177
12
Milano, Italy
my personal experience is in favour of the MBA: it is very light and snappy as long as you use it for web browsing, light photo post-production etc..
Best user experience on a laptop since many years for me.......:p
 

zedsdead

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Jun 20, 2007
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Given the recent battery improvements to the MBP, I highly recommend it over the Air, especially for longevity purposes (just customize it with an SSD if you can, because the SSD's rock).

Also, the Air is still plagued by the line issue and only allows 2 gigs of Ram.
 

King t.

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Oct 31, 2007
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i would also suggest you go for the new MBP. I just sold my MBA's recently due to the limitations, but mainly bec. REV:C had too many downsides, lines and yellowish display :(

i just bought myself a unibody MB 2,4ghz with 4gb ram and a OCZ 120gb SSD for 1000$ :D
 

mls64

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Jul 1, 2009
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Same quandry

I'm in a similar quandry, really struggling with the decision on an Air (rev B 128SSD) or MBP 13" w/SSD. I travel a lot so the lost weight would be great. I tend to keep computers for a while, my current Dell notebook is 5.5lbs and 4 yrs old, and I only use it when traveling. Otherwise all Mac at home/office.

The MBP or MBA would mainly be used when out of the office, mainly office apps, but I have to run Fusion/XP as I have a couple of work programs that require Windows. Certainly the MBP would run better, but the MBA might be enough, as the most demanding apps would be Fusion/XP while running OSX.

I haven't had such a difficult time making a decision about anything ever before. And that includes buying houses, cars, bikes, etc. This one is driving me crazy. I think I would have jumped on the MBA before the new 13" Pro came around because of the better graphics, but now have read about the "line problems" with the MBA. Help please..
 

MacModMachine

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I'm in a similar quandry, really struggling with the decision on an Air (rev B 128SSD) or MBP 13" w/SSD. I travel a lot so the lost weight would be great. I tend to keep computers for a while, my current Dell notebook is 5.5lbs and 4 yrs old, and I only use it when traveling. Otherwise all Mac at home/office.

The MBP or MBA would mainly be used when out of the office, mainly office apps, but I have to run Fusion/XP as I have a couple of work programs that require Windows. Certainly the MBP would run better, but the MBA might be enough, as the most demanding apps would be Fusion/XP while running OSX.

I haven't had such a difficult time making a decision about anything ever before. And that includes buying houses, cars, bikes, etc. This one is driving me crazy. I think I would have jumped on the MBA before the new 13" Pro came around because of the better graphics, but now have read about the "line problems" with the MBA. Help please..


i have narrowed it down to this

MBA

1.86 ghz
2gb - non upgradable
128gb ssd - hard to upgrade

MBP 13"

2.26
2gb - up to 8gb
160gb - easily upgradable
spare hdd slot when removing the dvd writer.

i already have 2 intel 80gb ssd's i want to move into the 13"
 

CPPMaster

macrumors member
Jun 12, 2009
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VA/USA
I moved from MAC AIR 1.6 to 13" MACBOOK PRO 2.53 , no regrets here, the weight between one and another is not so noticeable on the day by the day. Besides all the good reasons already posted here to move to MACPRO 13".

P.S. I was afraid that the screen will be an issue if compared with the MAC AIR 1.6, wrong, the 13" after calibration is really nice.

Regards,

i have narrowed it down to this

MBA

1.86 ghz
2gb - non upgradable
128gb ssd - hard to upgrade

MBP 13"

2.26
2gb - up to 8gb
160gb - easily upgradable
spare hdd slot when removing the dvd writer.

i already have 2 intel 80gb ssd's i want to move into the 13"
 

CoreyMac

macrumors regular
Jul 10, 2008
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There is honestly little reason to get a MBA over the new 13" MBP. 13" MBP: Better Battery life, Faster CPU, buttonless trackpad, 2 USB Ports, FireWire 800, Kensington Lock, SD Card Slot, SuperDrive, Stereo Speakers (MBA is Mono) Up to 8GB RAM, larger HD capacity, cheaper price, very similar display to the Air now.....and to boot the MBA and 13" MBP have the same exact footprint so the thinness doesnt really matter that much.....you're paying for a pound and a half lighter weight if you ask me.
 

jb1280

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Jan 13, 2009
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I wouldn't say that there are no reasons to purchase a macbook air, but the machine is certainly less compelling than it was when it was introduced.

Ironically, as the Air has become a much better computer from it's original variation, since October with the other 13" unibody it has been less compelling.

I think the battery and display on the new macbook pro is what puts it over the top.

I personally would not buy another Air, and this is from someone who has a rev. 1 that was great.
 

Scepticalscribe

macrumors Haswell
Jul 29, 2008
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In a coffee shop.
I wouldn't say that there are no reasons to purchase a macbook air, but the machine is certainly less compelling than it was when it was introduced.

Ironically, as the Air has become a much better computer from it's original variation, since October with the other 13" unibody it has been less compelling.

I think the battery and display on the new macbook pro is what puts it over the top.

I personally would not buy another Air, and this is from someone who has a rev. 1 that was great.

I agree and this is from someone who has lusted after the MBA since it came out. Undoubtedly, the Rev B MBA is a huge improvement over the Rev A, and I'd love one, but, and this is key, only as a second computer for a frequent traveller for whom weight matters and for whom non-heavy duty usage. If this is your main computer, bang for buck and in terms of comparable spec, then the new 13" MBP has to win hands down.

Cheers and good luck
 

miatadan

macrumors regular
Apr 23, 2006
102
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Sudbury,ON , Canada
I would consider MBA over MBP if the MBA had 4 GB memory instead of 2 GB.
Having 1 usb input not big issue if you have usb hub. MBP has 2 usb, so you would need usb hub as well. Having firewire is main advantage for those using computer for audio applications or music server. Apogee Duet is only firewire for exsample.

Dan
 

mls64

macrumors member
Jul 1, 2009
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There is honestly little reason to get a MBA over the new 13" MBP. 13" MBP: Better Battery life, Faster CPU, buttonless trackpad, 2 USB Ports, FireWire 800, Kensington Lock, SD Card Slot, SuperDrive, Stereo Speakers (MBA is Mono) Up to 8GB RAM, larger HD capacity, cheaper price, very similar display to the Air now.....and to boot the MBA and 13" MBP have the same exact footprint so the thinness doesnt really matter that much.....you're paying for a pound and a half lighter weight if you ask me.

Thanks. I just bought a 13" MPP 2.26/4gb RAM/128GB SSD, found a deal I couldn't pass up. Can't wait for it to arrive.
 

aaquib

macrumors 65816
Sep 11, 2007
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Toronto, Canada
Made the switch as well. Everything else is simply faster and the trackpad is an absolute joy to use. It's just so smooth and precise when scrolling around. And the gestures feel much more natural.

The weight...That's something that's going to be hard to get used to. The MBP feels a LOT heavier to me than the MBA. It's not something I get joy in taking around. However, the power easily makes up for it to me.
 

bobsaget611

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Jul 15, 2008
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I had an Air for over a year and just got rid of it for a 15'' MacBook Pro.

WOW... I'm so impressed I would never go back to an Air. Sure, the air was cool looking and thin but when it comes to be able to watch a video for over 5 minutes it just didn't work for me. HD video... forget about it.

If you need a computer for more than word processing and VERY simple internet don't get an Air or you will be doing yourself a disservice.
 

aleksandra.

macrumors 6502a
Sep 13, 2008
674
0
Warsaw, Poland
I had an Air for over a year and just got rid of it for a 15'' MacBook Pro.

WOW... I'm so impressed I would never go back to an Air. Sure, the air was cool looking and thin but when it comes to be able to watch a video for over 5 minutes it just didn't work for me. HD video... forget about it.

If you need a computer for more than word processing and VERY simple internet don't get an Air or you will be doing yourself a disservice.

That's what you get for buying a revision A... the issues you speak of were actually fixed, so please don't spread misinformation.
 

bobsaget611

macrumors member
Jul 15, 2008
39
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That's what you get for buying a revision A... the issues you speak of were actually fixed, so please don't spread misinformation.

I call horsesh*t. Look at the air forum and see all the people complaining of performance issues. As much as everyone would love to see the Air be a great machine, as I did being an early adopter, the truth is it just can't compare to a machine such as the MacBook Pro. The Air is awesome for anything but video, that is simply the truth.
 

aleksandra.

macrumors 6502a
Sep 13, 2008
674
0
Warsaw, Poland
I call horsesh*t. Look at the air forum and see all the people complaining of performance issues. As much as everyone would love to see the Air be a great machine, as I did being an early adopter, the truth is it just can't compare to a machine such as the MacBook Pro. The Air is awesome for anything but video, that is simply the truth.

"Anything but video" isn't exactly "word processing and VERY simple internet" you've talked about earlier ;). I actually disagree with this statement as well... for example video playback has been significantly improved, but still none of these laptops would be any good for video editing.
 

xciteboy

macrumors newbie
May 2, 2006
26
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I purchased a Rev A Macbook Air as soon as it was announced. It's a pretty sexy machine, and never failed to elicit admiring/envious looks and comments when I was out and about with it. It's extreme light weight made traveling with it a joy.

HOWEVER: I began to get quite disenchanted with it before long. While I still love the weight and look of the machine, it turned out to be completely impractical for almost any computing task. Just scrolling through web pages on Safari would bring up the dreaded beach ball -- not for very long, but long enough to cause a slight lag that became more and more annoying. I was not doing any heavy lifting with this machine - literally using it for web browsing, a little bit of listening to music/podcasts, and the occasional Word or Excel creation and editing. The performance for just web browsing - and don't get me started on trying to view HD video or even just YouTube - was completely unacceptable. Lastly, the battery life was poor - and charging the battery took forever.

Yes, this was a Rev A and I know some work has been done on these issues. But once around the block with the Air was enough for me. I just ditched it in favor of the high-end 15-inch MBP and I'm never looking back!

MBP Pro - even the 13-inch - is so much more powerful and has such tremendously better battery life that it's hard to imagine people seriously considering the Air at this point - except as an overpriced fashion accessory.

(FYI I've been all Mac for the last 8 yrs - this is no Apple flame, not even an Air flame. Just a perspective from an early Air adopter who was extremely disappointed with it and is now incredibly happy with a MBP.)
 
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