iPhone Today: Awaiting Jailbreak - Is it better to be on iOS 6.1.4 or iOS 7.0.4?

[Totally]

Hi everyone,

I recently lost my jailbroken iOS 6.0.something when I dropped my iphone 5 into water and it died... Apple replaced it with another iphone 5, but instead of being on 6.0.something again, I am now on 6.1.4.

My question is this: Should I stay on 6.1.4 and await a jailbreak or upgrade to 7.0.4 and await a jailbreak?

Perks of each:

6.1.4: Jailbreak might be released for 6.1.4 before a 7.0.4 jailbreak is released. They have said it will be out before 2014.

7.0.4: If I upgrade to 7.0.4 now, I can cement having 7.0.4 and await a jailbreak. If I wait too long for this upgrade, apple with release 7.1 (Which is in beta1 if I recall), and stop signing 7.0.4 and then I will likely be screwed again.

The con of staying on 6.1.4 too long is losing my chance to jailbreak ios7.

Do you think I should stick with 6.1.4 or 7.0.4? Please let me know and feel free to address any more pros or cons I failed to mention.

 

[Tyler23]

Hi everyone,

I recently lost my jailbroken iOS 6.0.something when I dropped my iphone 5 into water and it died... Apple replaced it with another iphone 5, but instead of being on 6.0.something again, I am now on 6.1.4.

My question is this: Should I stay on 6.1.4 and await a jailbreak or upgrade to 7.0.4 and await a jailbreak?

Perks of each:

6.1.4: Jailbreak might be released for 6.1.4 before a 7.0.4 jailbreak is released. They have said it will be out before 2014.

7.0.4: If I upgrade to 7.0.4 now, I can cement having 7.0.4 and await a jailbreak. If I wait too long for this upgrade, apple with release 7.1 (Which is in beta1 if I recall), and stop signing 7.0.4 and then I will likely be screwed again.

Do you think I should stick with 6.1.4 or 7.0.4? Please let me know and feel free to address any more pros or cons I failed to mention.

As far as I'm aware, there has been no official word that a jailbreak for iOS 6.1.4 will be out before the end of the year.

The dev team is likely waiting for the release of 7.1, at which point they will release their jailbreak, meaning the jailbreak will be compatible with iOS versions up through 7.1.

If they release a jailbreak, it will be compatible with 7.1, not just 7.0.4.

 

[darricksailo]

Its hard to say as the iOS 6.1.3/6.1.4 jailbreak was suppose to come out by the end of the year. However, that has been changed as they have discovered the exploits on 6.1.3/6.1.4 also work on iOS 7

For the 3GS and 4, I believe the ETA is still by the end of the year

 

[Totally]

Its hard to say as the iOS 6.1.3/6.1.4 jailbreak was suppose to come out by the end of the year. However, that has been changed as they have discovered the exploits on 6.1.3/6.1.4 also work on iOS 7

For the 3GS and 4, I believe the ETA is still by the end of the year

So it is likely that 6.1.4 won't be jailbroken for iphone 5 then?

I don't really like iOS 7, but I want to lock in 7.0.4 if 6.1.4 won't be jailbroken ever for an iphone 5.

 

[Tyler23]

So it is likely that 6.1.4 won't be jailbroken for iphone 5 then?

I don't really like iOS 7, but I want to lock in 7.0.4 if 6.1.4 won't be jailbroken ever for an iphone 5.

Out of curiosity, why would you want to lock into 7.0.4? A big reason the jailbreak isn't out yet is that the dev team wants 7.1 to be released first, so they can make sure that none of their exploits get patched.

7.1 will be a big improvement performance wise of 7.0.4, and when the jailbreak is released it will work for 7.1, so I don't see a point in trying to lock into 7.0.4 rather than updating to 7.1 when it's released.

 

[TriJetHero]

Out of curiosity, why would you want to lock into 7.0.4? A big reason the jailbreak isn't out yet is that the dev team wants 7.1 to be released first, so they can make sure that none of their exploits get patched.

7.1 will be a big improvement performance wise of 7.0.4, and when the jailbreak is released it will work for 7.1, so I don't see a point in trying to lock into 7.0.4 rather than updating to 7.1 when it's released.

Actually they never said they wait for 7.1 that's an assumption.
They did say the JB is not ready, Cydia is not ready and Mobilesubstrate is not ready.

 

[darricksailo]

So it is likely that 6.1.4 won't be jailbroken for iphone 5 then?

I don't really like iOS 7, but I want to lock in 7.0.4 if 6.1.4 won't be jailbroken ever for an iphone 5.

6.1.4 will be jailbroken eventually for the iPhone 5

 

[Tyler23]

Actually they never said they wait for 7.1 that's an assumption.
They did say the JB is not ready, Cydia is not ready and Mobilesubstrate is not ready.

Ok, they never said officially, but that is what happened last year, and it makes perfect sense and is likely what will happen again. Even if the jailbreak was ready, you can bet they'd be waiting for the release of 7.1.

 

[Totally]

I figured they were waiting for 7.1 to be released. But as it was said, that is an assumption, that isn't fact. And because it wasn't fact, that's why I was thinking of "locking in" on 7.0.4 incase 7.1 isn't jailbroken as easy.

I meant "locking in" as in updating my iphone 5 to 7.0.4 before apple stops signing 7.0.4 and then I have no choice but to 7.1 if I want to upgrade.

Seems like some good information here, thanks for your info guys .

I do have one more question - coming from someone with a little bit of CS and coding background, is there a good book to read about the basics of iOS jailbreaking and how these exploits work? Nothing too technical of over my head. I was googling around and found (http://www.amazon.com/iOS-Hackers-H...8&qid=1386111992&sr=8-1&keywords=ios+security) The iOS hacker's handbook. Is that is a good place to start?

 

[eyoungren]

Here's a breakdown of how they did 6.x. It's layman's technical terms of course, but should give you a good idea.

Essentially, it's a series of exploits all designed to get root access to the kernel. Setting up dominos and then knocking them over. Once you have root access, you have a jailbreak.

 

[braddick]

Here's a breakdown of how they did 6.x. It's layman's technical terms of course, but should give you a good idea.

Essentially, it's a series of exploits all designed to get root access to the kernel. Setting up dominos and then knocking them over. Once you have root access, you have a jailbreak.

Pilot kernels can't be accessed outside of the tic tac toe method and that's difficult due to cheats within the binaries.

 

[eyoungren]

I'm unfamiliar with the terms "pilot kernel" and "tic tac toe method." Could you explain a bit more?

 

[braddick]

Well, once you set up your dominos and then knock them down you slide over to the tic tac toe area.
Between all the X's and O's you're ready for a rousing game of Uno after popping kernels of corn, swigging ice cold root beer, and then call it a night.

Good clean family fun!
Why?

What were you talking about?

 

[Totally]

So.. is the book I posted a good place to start? =P I don't know much about dominos and tic tac toe.

 

[eyoungren]

Well, once you set up your dominos and then knock them down you slide over to the tic tac toe area.
Between all the X's and O's you're ready for a rousing game of Uno after popping kernels of corn, swigging ice cold root beer, and then call it a night.

Good clean family fun!
Why?

What were you talking about?

Hardy, har har!

I was talking jailbreaking, LOL!