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Today confirms that Apple has total spite for mini owners at this point

rrl said:
Give me the whiners over the Apple apologists any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Apple has had plenty of time and plenty of mobile quad core i7/5200 chips to choose from. Here they are:

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But you go ahead and keep apologizing.
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Please go back and point out the apology statement.

I have a quad core mini and you don't ? My apology ??? I'm not sure what you want here.
 
Micky Do said:
Stop whinging.

The range available is more than adequate for typical Mac Mini users. If you don't see what you want, get a Mac Pro. Problem solved.
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That's so far from "problem solved" it's like the insight of someone with a learning difficulty. The Mac Mini previously offered an entry level headless Mac with 4 cores that was at least close to the performance of the entry level quad MacBook Pro with the 3 x the cost Mac Pro only offering around 23% more CPU power and questionably useful GPUs.

Now there's nothing. It's either buy a used 2012 model or pay 2014 Mac Mini prices for a used 8-core Mac Pro tower and a few PCIe cards to add USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s (because of the questionable usefulness of Thunderbolt compared with internal PCIe).
 
No competition

I guess Apple feels they have no competition in the market against the mac mini. It is shocking how little effort apple has put into this "upgrade". If apple did this in the Macbook line or Ipad there stock would plummet. With my macbook pro dead (faulty gpu/bad engineering) now this FU mac mini upgrade. I no longer have loyalty to Apple. Hackintosh!
 
I suspect they discontinued the quad core model because it detracted from sales of the quad Mac Pro.
 
Zellio said:
It's Tim Cook's Apple. Steve Jobs made interesting new products.
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Tim has a cruise control executive strategy: just play along and hype the mundane until it is too late and he has a comfortable resume and investment portfolio.
 
barkmonster said:
That's so far from "problem solved" it's like the insight of someone with a learning difficulty. The Mac Mini previously offered an entry level headless Mac with 4 cores that was at least close to the performance of the entry level quad MacBook Pro with the 3 x the cost Mac Pro only offering around 23% more CPU power and questionably useful GPUs.

Now there's nothing. It's either buy a used 2012 model or pay 2014 Mac Mini prices for a used 8-core Mac Pro tower and a few PCIe cards to add USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s (because of the questionable usefulness of Thunderbolt compared with internal PCIe).
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this. a million times, this.
 
Compared to the latest model, the 2012 quad-core is still a powerhouse for multithreaded cpu-intensive apps. I think a 2.6GHz quad-core should be a good deal now, especially if it shows up in the refurb store.

Other vendors still carry it (like bhphotovideo.com). Since I mainly use my 2011 version for running Virtualbox and ripping Blu-Rays to iTunes format I need the beefy quad-core. I'll just get a base model with the 2.6GHz chip and transfer my SSD and memory over.

I don't need a desktop that isn't any faster than my 13" retina MBP.
 
johngwheeler said:
Easy tiger. There's a difference between being patriotic and nationalistic. The latter has a tendency towards bigotry and small-mindedness. As for your second sentence - where did that come from? Medication time!
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If I don't care about my country and its economy, why would I care about my state? Or my city? Or my neighborhood? Or my home?

I'm not even American, and I fully support Americans who want more manufacturing jobs in their own country. The US middle class has been gutted.
 
Tough Guy said:
If I don't care about my country and its economy, why would I care about my state? Or my city? Or my neighborhood? Or my home?

I'm not even American, and I fully support Americans who want more manufacturing jobs in their own country. The US middle class has been gutted.
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no one cares
 
RoastingPig said:
it has an hdmi and 2 thunderbolt ports...dont be suprised if it can do 5
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Actually, I'd be very surprised if the graphics implementation wasn't hard limited to 2 displays - in the same way AFAIK the Mac Pro can only have 2 <4K displays per thunderbolt bus, and one of those has the HDMI port in it.

If the Mini's two ports are on 1 bus, which also feeds the HDMI, the fine print may well be:

"any combination of upto two 2560x1600 displays on Thunderbolt or 1 2560x1600 on thunderbolt and 1 1920x1200 on HDMI"

I hope I'm wrong, but anything better than that would surprise me.
 
In fact according to Apple's site:

"Support for up to two displays at 2560 by 1600 pixels, both at millions of colors"

Triple-heading is effectively a Mac Pro feature.
 
So much for my idea of replacing my hackintosh with a Mac Mini. I'd love to go back to genuine Apple desktops but there's no compelling reason to. I could have settled for rubbish Iris graphics since building a separate gaming PC but there's no way in hell I can settle for a dual core chip in a 2014 machine. That's just pathetic.

A stock 2.8GHz Dual Core i5 Mac Mini is £799. That's quad core nehalem/gulftown used Mac Pro territory. A 3.0GHz Dual Core i7 Mac Mini is £959 which is almost hex core used Mac Pro territory. Of course, people who used Mac Minis as compact servers or even Xserve replacements are stuffed but for people who just want a headless Mac, those used Mac Pros are significantly more powerful and infinitely more upgradeable at the same cost.

These Mac Minis are ridiculous.
 
As much as you guys want to think the Mini is supposed to be a power-users machine, it isn't, it's an entry-level Mac and that is very clear. No upgrades, no server version, no quad-core - these weren't things that were removed because Apple has spite for Mini owners, they were removed because they finally want to be more diligent about forcing people to buy iMacs or Mac Pros if they're working on power-hungry tasks.

Apple doesn't just make decisions to piss people off, though it might feel like it sometimes, they do it to make money - as any business should. I want a Mac Mini equal to some of your suggestions, but I realize that Apple has never been and never will be in the game for those of us that are power users or tinkerers or like upgrade options down the road. You know what Apple wants you to do when it's time to upgrade? Buy a new machine. That should be their goal as they have to keep stockholders happy.

So quit bitching and realize that Apple doesn't cater to YOU, they cater to what makes the most business sense.
 
Lol stupid Mac mini. I honestly expected Tim cook to show off a thinner Mac mini with ULV i5s in it. Guess I wasn't too far off!

Ok this is being silly but maybe they don't want to make a headless Mac because all the geeks would get it and they'd rather see the geeks using hackintoshes than tarnishing apples stylish image using a real Mac. Video editors are COOL! Sound guys are SUPER COOL!! They tolerate physicists and researchers because it looks good when the guy that discovered a cure for cancer is talking at his desk and a $7000 Mac pro is gleaming in the background behind him.

But programmers? NERDS!!!! Ew stay away

Lol just kidding. The MacBook pro is a very popular machine for that
 
Clearly the decision was made for continued product differentiation and up-selling more than anything else. I strongly suspect that Apple still has extra inventory of Iris Pro configurations stocked up from their initial heavily discounted buy last year from Intel. Would've been very easy to put in the top model and have something to write home about, but instead they went their increasingly predictable route and chose to avoid likely cannibalization of iMac and nMP sales.
 
cygy2k said:
As much as you guys want to think the Mini is supposed to be a power-users machine, it isn't, it's an entry-level Mac and that is very clear. No upgrades, no server version, no quad-core - these weren't things that were removed because Apple has spite for Mini owners, they were removed because they finally want to be more diligent about forcing people to buy iMacs or Mac Pros if they're working on power-hungry tasks.

Apple doesn't just make decisions to piss people off, though it might feel like it sometimes, they do it to make money - as any business should. I want a Mac Mini equal to some of your suggestions, but I realize that Apple has never been and never will be in the game for those of us that are power users or tinkerers or like upgrade options down the road. You know what Apple wants you to do when it's time to upgrade? Buy a new machine. That should be their goal as they have to keep stockholders happy.

So quit bitching and realize that Apple doesn't cater to YOU, they cater to what makes the most business sense.
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Of course they're trying to force people to buy iMacs and Mac Pros. That's clearly the whole point of this. However, it is woefully underpowered as an entry level Mac now.

Also, the Mac Mini was marketed as Apple's Xserve replacement. Hence why they introduced the Mac Mini Server a few years ago. There are a *lot* of people out there that have been using Mac Minis as servers for home/home office/small business as they were advised by Apple to transition to those and the Mac Minis were marketed to do those jobs. No longer.
 
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