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Man this news coming out of China about next iPad Pro having Triple Camera Lens is disturbing me !! I just made a Purchase of the 11" iPad Pro !! I waited this long because I wanted to get a flawless Device, which I got ! But now this news, but do you guys think there could be update this year even for the 11" iPad Pro ? These news coming in for the new iPad Pro's they sure are for the iPP but would they be released in 2019? Most people were guessing Since Apple last released the iPP in Oct-2018 it wont be exactly in a year's time maybe 15-18 Months that makes it Spring of next year ? what do you guys think ?
 
I do not take many images with my 11" Pro but others do.

If is DOES have the same cameras as the Pro 11, it will get some to update for sure.

Yeah but it wont be just like a plain Triple Camera Lens upgrade right ? It would also have some Nifty, Fancy Features ? isnt it ?
 
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Yeah but it wont be just like a plain Triple Camera Lens upgrade right ? It would also have some Nifty, Fancy Features ? isnt it ?
There was a Bloomberg / Gurman article at the beginning of this year that suggested that the iPad Pro might get the laser “Time of Flight” camera first before the iPhone, but it suggested a 2020 release date (“as early as Spring 2020” it said). I guess I would be surprised if it got bumped up to this fall, seems like we’d have heard more about it by now from the usual supply chain analyst folks, unless Apple has really managed to keep timelines for this under wraps. Maybe they announce in October and it’s released by “end of year”?

So here are the possibilities in my mind with regards to this fall (in no particular order):

1) We all get surprised with some fancy Time of Flight tech in the iPad Pro this fall

2) We get just the same 3 lens setup that the iPhone is reported to be getting, and it is released this fall, AND

2a) iPad Pro does not actually get ToF camera ahead of iPhone after all,

OR

2b) iPad Pro gets updated AGAIN 1H 2020 (maybe WWDC) with this ToF camera and all the “the iPad Pro only gets updates every 18 months” crowd’s collective heads will explode :p

3) We’re not actually getting a new / refreshed iPad Pro in 2019 (maybe it’ll just be the 10.2” iPad with an updated camera). Whatever the upgraded camera setup of the Pro line is, we’ll see it next year sometime.
 
Bearing in mind that the iPad recycle is around every 18 months I would be surprised to see a replacement for the iPad Pro after just 11 months. They may well make an announcement but it may be released sometime next year. It wouldn’t be the first time that they’ve announced devices six months ahead of release. All we can do is wait for the keynote and see what Apple have to say
 
There was a Bloomberg / Gurman article at the beginning of this year that suggested that the iPad Pro might get the laser “Time of Flight” camera first before the iPhone, but it suggested a 2020 release date (“as early as Spring 2020” it said). I guess I would be surprised if it got bumped up to this fall, seems like we’d have heard more about it by now from the usual supply chain analyst folks, unless Apple has really managed to keep timelines for this under wraps. Maybe they announce in October and it’s released by “end of year”?

So here are the possibilities in my mind with regards to this fall (in no particular order):

1) We all get surprised with some fancy Time of Flight tech in the iPad Pro this fall

2) We get just the same 3 lens setup that the iPhone is reported to be getting, and it is released this fall, AND

2a) iPad Pro does not actually get ToF camera ahead of iPhone after all,

OR

2b) iPad Pro gets updated AGAIN 1H 2020 (maybe WWDC) with this ToF camera and all the “the iPad Pro only gets updates every 18 months” crowd’s collective heads will explode :p

3) We’re not actually getting a new / refreshed iPad Pro in 2019 (maybe it’ll just be the 10.2” iPad with an updated camera). Whatever the upgraded camera setup of the Pro line is, we’ll see it next year sometime.

Kuo already cleared it up in his notes in the past few weeks.

We're expecting two iPad Pro refreshes:
  • Q4'19 or Q1'20 - Light refresh
  • Late 2020 or early 2021 - Major refresh with mini-LED and ToF

I would consider Gurman's article to be out of date.
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Most people were guessing Since Apple last released the iPP in Oct-2018 it wont be exactly in a year's time maybe 15-18 Months that makes it Spring of next year ? what do you guys think ?

The announcement of iPadOS should tell you the game has changed. I would throw that old 15-18 month estimate out the window.
 
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Kuo already cleared it up in his notes in the past few weeks.

We're expecting two iPad Pro refreshes:
  • Q4'19 or Q1'20 - Light refresh
  • Late 2020 or early 2021 - Major refresh with mini-LED and ToF

I would consider Gurman's article to be out of date.

That’s fair— and the scenario you’ve outlined seems most realistic.

I imagine the new camera gives Apple a tangible upgrade to talk about on stage.

Otherwise, this rumor seems to suggest a fall release timeline. Take it with the usual rumor salt.

Can’t wait to see what happens this fall.
 
Bearing in mind that the iPad recycle is around every 18 months I would be surprised to see a replacement for the iPad Pro after just 11 months.

This is my favorite :p Technology moves fast and our memory is short. There’s not that much history to the iPad Pro line by itself to really definitively say it has even a rough release cadence of its own. iPad line in general has gotten busier with the entry level iPad, the Mini, now the Air sitting between entry level and Pro... but if you look at the entire history of iPad releases, a yearly cadence is far more common than not.

iPad: April 2010.

iPad 2: March 2011. (11 months)

iPad 3: March 2012. (12 months).

iPad 4, iPad Mini: October 2012. (6 months. Very much a spec bump if I recall correctly. Faster chip - a6x - and moved to lightning connector instead of 30pin. A lot of iPad 3 owners were not happy about the quick update... I bought an iPad 3 and don’t recall the iPad 4 release really bothering me.)

iPad Air, iPad Mini w. Retina: October 2013 (12 months)

iPad Air 2, iPad Mini 3: October 2014 (12 months)


iPad Pro 12.9”: October 2015 (iPad Mini 4) (12 months from previous “flagship” iPad release— the Pro line became the new flagship, I’d argue).

iPad Pro 9.7”: March 2016 (17 months from previous 9.7” iPad)

iPad 5: March 2017;

iPad Pro 2nd gen: June 2017 (15 - 20 months from first gen Pro)

iPad 6: March 2018;

iPad Pro 3rd gen: October 2018 (16 months from 2nd gen)

iPad Air 3, iPad Mini 5: March 2019

give or take a couple weeks on these— sometimes they were announce in late October and shipped early November, etc.

Now, you can see where the estimation fo the iPad Pro’s release cadence comes from... but in the larger context of iPad releases over time, it would also not be unusual for an annual update cycle.

Yes, there has been no other product with as regular a cycle as the iPhone; we shouldn’t necessarily expect a new iPad in a given tier every 12 months the same way we do an iPhone... but it’s also not unreasonably soon, either, especially for a modest update that serves to keep the product fresh between more major updates.

Also... the Air 3 seems like it sits in a weird spot right now, although I see how it sits between the “budget” model and the Pro model. I’m very curious to see what happens next with regards to a 10.2” model (iPad 7? Why would it be rumored to get a better 2-camera module over the Air line?)
 
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I don’t expect a major update. HOWEVER, I would NEVER buy an iPad anywhere close to a potential release date of a new one. Waiting a short while to make sure I’m spending $ on the latest model is a no brainer. I bought my 2018 12.9 on launch day, so if Apple doesn’t do more than just an internal upgrade I’m ready to buy it. It’s not like the 2018 models are “newly” released devices at this point.
 
Triple Cam might be interesting, but to be honest 5G might be the next big thing.
5G will come in time. Then there’s the whole “cellular vs WiFi only” iPad debate ;)

For myself.... I don’t get the 5g hype. I’d be content to see carriers just provide better 4g coverage. But then I’m also not on the 4K streaming train either. (I still frequently watch 720p content on a 1080p TV... it’s “good enough” for me— the quality of picture allows me to forget about the technology. Not to say that I don’t stop and drool over those 4k LG OLED TVs every time I walk past them in Costco :p )

Maybe 5G would allow me to stream 1080p content and reduce the desire for the onboard storage? (I’m one of those people who always likes to get the most storage on a device that they can get). Also, I’m sure there are use cases outside of my own that could benefit from 5G— I’m just not sure what those are. Maybe it’d be better for gaming wirelessly? What else?

I already think the iPad Pro is an incredible device. I’d be happy just to see them continue to get faster (horsepower for processor intensive apps), have more RAM, and perhaps some niceties like more than one USB port (one can dream, hah) and obviously screen technology has room for growth (Mini LED or whatever technology can provide better color, contrast, HDR, etc etc).

I really do feel like what the iPad needs most is for the OS to continue to mature and become more capable. But I also get that Apple needs to keep finding ways to market these devices and have to pace themselves a bit.
 
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5G will come in time. Then there’s the whole “cellular vs WiFi only” iPad debate ;)

For myself.... I don’t get the 5g hype. I’d be content to see carriers just provide better 4g coverage. But then I’m also not on the 4K streaming train either. (I still frequently watch 720p content on a 1080p TV... it’s “good enough” for me— the quality of picture allows me to forget about the technology. Not to say that I don’t stop and drool over those 4k LG OLED TVs every time I walk past them in Costco :p )

Maybe 5G would allow me to stream 1080p content and reduce the desire for the onboard storage? (I’m one of those people who always likes to get the most storage on a device that they can get). Also, I’m sure there are use cases outside of my own that could benefit from 5G— I’m just not sure what those are. Maybe it’d be better for gaming wirelessly? What else?

I already think the iPad Pro is an incredible device. I’d be happy just to see them continue to get faster (horsepower for processor intensive apps), have more RAM, and perhaps some niceties like more than one USB port (one can dream, hah) and obviously screen technology has room for growth (Mini LED or whatever technology can provide better color, contrast, HDR, etc etc).

I really do feel like what the iPad needs most is for the OS to continue to mature and become more capable. But I also get that Apple needs to keep finding ways to market these devices and have to pace themselves a bit.

I do have a Samsung 4K, and the only 4K content I was able to get, has been from Amazon Prime.
It works with 4G and it's fantastic :)

But my standart TV content is still 720p:)

Regarding 5G
I guess it will depend where you are based,the big cities will have 5G coverage first.

Here in switzerland( Land area about 20% of Utah and 8.6 Million inhabitants) 5G should be available almost everywhere until end of 19.

https://www.swisscom.ch/en/about/company/portrait/network/5g.html

Even I was really surprised about that:)

I am really curious to see how fast It‘ll be. With 5G even 8K livestream should be possible.

The 18 iPad Pro is an absolute masterpiece, extremly fast, not to big and heavy.

I hope they will release Photoshop for iPad soon, therefore the huge performance can be finally used.
 
I hope they will release Photoshop for iPad soon, therefore the huge performance can be finally used.

That's probably it, actually.

The triple camera lens array will be paired with Photoshop for iPad in Apple's keynote. They will pitch it as a photography studio.
 
I hope they will release Photoshop for iPad soon, therefore the huge performance can be finally used.
I would not be surprised to see Adobe get on stage to hype Photoshop for iPad during an Apple event this fall ;) hopefully it’ll coincide with a release date.

For my part, I’m interested in exploring Adobe alternatives for image manipulation and design.
 
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