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http://www.tmonews.com/2014/12/t-mo...e-malware-installing-apps-without-permission/

A couple of disturbing and growing threads on Reddit and XDA allege that – after the latest software update – Galaxy Note 4 users on T-Mobile have some unwanted and potentially invasive software. Software dubbed DT_Ignite has purportedly been installed on the Note 4 along with the update, but – according to user responses – isn’t a regular piece of wanted software. Instead, it’s been installing apps on to customer phones without their permission.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
I wouldn't want anything installed on my phone without my explicit permission or prior consent.

One of the other reasons I like iphone, you know exactly what you're getting even if you think all of apples apps are bloat ware.
 

JackieInCo

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Jul 18, 2013
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Colorado
I just heard about it being installed on Verizon phones. Didn't hear about T-Mobile. Wonder if it's something special about that one phone.
 

aristobrat

macrumors G5
Oct 14, 2005
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Since the Uncarrier's CEO prides himself in personally responding to customers emails and tweets, someone should tweet him up and see what he says. :cool:
 

kdarling

macrumors P6

Calling it "malware" gives the wrong impression.

It's more like carrier remote app provisioning.

I wouldn't want anything installed on my phone without my explicit permission or prior consent.

Yeah, like Apple pushing albums or unwanted OS updates.

One of the other reasons I like iphone, you know exactly what you're getting even if you think all of apples apps are bloat ware.

If we can't get rid of it altogether, then there's no difference.

At least on Android, unused stock apps don't have to take up space on a homepage. I hate having to make a "Misc" folder on my iOS device homescreens to "hide" Apple apps that don't interest me.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
Calling it "malware" gives the wrong impression.

It's more like carrier remote app provisioning.



Yeah, like Apple pushing albums or unwanted OS updates.



If we can't get rid of it altogether, then there's no difference.

At least on Android, unused stock apps don't have to take up space on a homepage. I hate having to make a "Misc" folder on my iOS device homescreens to "hide" Apple apps that don't interest me.

There's a big difference, Apple doesn't surprise you with new apps. As far as U2, they apologized and gave a way to remove the songs, as far as IOS updates you don't have to accept them.

Additionally, a one time effort to customize your home screen is an issue? Okay, then.
 

Lloydbm41

Suspended
Oct 17, 2013
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Central California
There's a big difference, Apple doesn't surprise you with new apps. As far as U2, they apologized and gave a way to remove the songs, as far as IOS updates you don't have to accept them.

Additionally, a one time effort to customize your home screen is an issue? Okay, then.

You specifically stated you wouldn't want anything added to your phone without your explicit consent, but then give Apple a pass because they apologized?

You are a prime example of why Apple fans are called hypocrites.

As for the iOS updates... You don't have to accept the update, but Apple will harass the crap out of you until you do. It is so annoying that you give in eventually. Or god forbid if you have to do a restore for some reason, you get forced into accepting the update.
 

mrex

macrumors 68040
Jul 16, 2014
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europe
Because it is not built in a rom, cant you just disable dtignite from settings - applications...?
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
35,162
25,281
Gotta be in it to win it
You specifically stated you wouldn't want anything added to your phone without your explicit consent, but then give Apple a pass because they apologized?

You are a prime example of why Apple fans are called hypocrites.

As for the iOS updates... You don't have to accept the update, but Apple will harass the crap out of you until you do. It is so annoying that you give in eventually. Or god forbid if you have to do a restore for some reason, you get forced into accepting the update.

Hypocrite? Yes, it was a mistake be Apple. Transparency anyone? Apple has its faults, but pushing a song is not a problem. Change an app anyone?
 

Lloydbm41

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Oct 17, 2013
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Hypocrite? Yes, it was a mistake be Apple. Transparency anyone? Apple has its faults, but pushing a song is not a problem. Change an app anyone?

because Apple does it, you find the practice okay.
If anyone other than Apple does it, they are despicable.

We now know Apple has been manipulating people's accounts since the first iPod without their consent, and tricking people into doing restores in order to delete their data. But I'm sure that is fine with you too. Because Apple did it. If it had been Google, you'd be one of the first in line with a pitchfork yelling for heads to roll. This is the very definition of someone being hypocritical.

Do you not see an issue with your thought process? Think for yourself. Praise, engage and deride all companies equally for the things they do. It is the only way to keep them in check.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
35,162
25,281
Gotta be in it to win it
because Apple does it, you find the practice okay.
If anyone other than Apple does it, they are despicable.

We now know Apple has been manipulating people's accounts since the first iPod without their consent, and tricking people into doing restores in order to delete their data. But I'm sure that is fine with you too. Because Apple did it. If it had been Google, you'd be one of the first in line with a pitchfork yelling for heads to roll. This is the very definition of someone being hypocritical.

Do you not see an issue with your thought process? Think for yourself. Praise, engage and deride all companies equally for the things they do. It is the only way to keep them in check.

Apple mistakenly pushes one song and is transparent about it, while this uncarrier has the ability to do almost anything to your phone. Do you see a difference in this. If you don't, you really need to examine how you think, because it is clearly not on the same level.

Do you not see there is a huge difference in these examples: push song vs configure phone. Doesn't seem the same to me, but nobody in their right mind would say this type of thing in a conversation to their boss.
 

Lloydbm41

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Oct 17, 2013
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1,456
Central California
Apple mistakenly pushes one song and is transparent about it, while this uncarrier has the ability to do almost anything to your phone. Do you see a difference in this. If you don't, you really need to examine how you think, because it is clearly not on the same level.

Do you not see there is a huge difference in these examples: push song vs configure phone. Doesn't seem the same to me, but nobody in their right mind would say this type of thing in a conversation to their boss.

Apple didn't mistakenly push a song. I love how you use the word 'mistakenly', to tone down Apples involvement in an act you originally called despicable.

It doesn't matter if it is a song, an app or an update to the OS. If 'data' is unknowingly put on your phone, it should be called for what it is. You, however, are such a biased Apple lacky, you try to excuse one company, while spitting venom at the other. You are a flip-flopping hypocrite with zero credibility. Not even sure why you bother posting in this section since you have such a deep love affair with all things Apple?

But I'm done reading your crap. I'm putting you on ignore.

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By the way, I find any company doing crap like this deplorable. I like T-Mobile and will complain to John on Twitter if this is proven true.

I complained directly to Apple about that stupid U2 album. I can't stand the group or Bono, so glad I was able to delete it after enough of us complained.

I buy phones with Vanilla Android, WP or iPhones to avoid the Crapware.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
35,162
25,281
Gotta be in it to win it
Apple didn't mistakenly push a song. I love how you use the word 'mistakenly', to tone down Apples involvement in an act you originally called despicable.

It doesn't matter if it is a song, an app or an update to the OS. If 'data' is unknowingly put on your phone, it should be called for what it is. You, however, are such a biased Apple lacky, you try to excuse one company, while spitting venom at the other. You are a flip-flopping hypocrite with zero credibility. Not even sure why you bother posting in this section since you have such a deep love affair with all things Apple?

But I'm done reading your crap. I'm putting you on ignore.

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By the way, I find any company doing crap like this deplorable. I like T-Mobile and will complain to John on Twitter if this is proven true.

I complained directly to Apple about that stupid U2 album. I can't stand the group or Bono, so glad I was able to delete it after enough of us complained.

I buy phones with Vanilla Android, WP or iPhones to avoid the Crapware.

Actually it does matter, and if you really don't get the difference, because you are so black and white, I can't help it. There is a world of difference. I think you really need to take a close look at how you are analyzing this.
 

Dezryth

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Oct 20, 2014
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Apple didn't think they'd get such blowback. When they realized they heard their customers and offered a way to get rid of the album. The album was meant to be a gift to their customers and they paid a lot for it. There was no foul motive at play.
 
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