Have got to say sometimes I overthink thing to my detriment, ( I am retired engineer) after seeing name of app I went on search and realized something, I can (and did) rearrange apps in my apps folder, or screen I pull up using hot corners, and was able to satisfy my requirements by putting the apps I wanted first, my problem was a lot of my most used apps that I open from there were on second page which I didn't like. Now they are right there. I use top left hand hot corner for apps so when I open apps they are right there where cursor is so supper simple and easy. Thanks for all your responses and help.