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Update to 10.10.2 to fix my wifi - yay or nay?
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Yes, you should go ahead with the update. Apple has stated WiFi problems as one of the issues addressed in this update.
You should realize however that 99.9% of Yosemite users have not experienced these WiFi issues at all and do not think this is a "garbage OS". I have personally installed Yosemite on many Macs (both home and work) and have yet to experience a single problem with WiFi or any other feature.
I'm honestly not trying to dismiss your WiFi problems (some people are obviously have WiFi issues). Hopefully Apple has provided a fix that applies to your unique combination of Mac hardware and OS settings, and your WiFi network hardware and settings.
You should realize however that 99.9% of Yosemite users have not experienced these WiFi issues at all and do not think this is a "garbage OS". I have personally installed Yosemite on many Macs (both home and work) and have yet to experience a single problem with WiFi or any other feature.
I'm honestly not trying to dismiss your WiFi problems (some people are obviously have WiFi issues). Hopefully Apple has provided a fix that applies to your unique combination of Mac hardware and OS settings, and your WiFi network hardware and settings.
I would be cautious.
Here's my tale..
Bought new imac a few months ago which arrived with Mavericks installed. Worked like a charm. Ran it for 2 weeks on Mavericks. Wifi fast, responsive no issues. Upgraded to Yosemite and problems started. 10.10.1 Wifi slow, Safari pages begin to load (blue bar gets so far then stops). Browser times out and says can't contact server. I'm annoyed but hey, fingers crossed for 10.10.2 it surely can't make it worse?..... It did.
Under 10.10.2 it sometimes works ok but often get the same website timeouts and disconnects. However it also now sometimes completely drops the connection altogether and also occasionally shows the WiFi symbol with a big exclamation mark through it. Wonderful! Wish I'd stayed put on Mavericks.
Please don't tell me that my network is at fault as wifi worked like a dream under Mavericks. Only thing I've changed is to upgrade to Yosemite which is clearly dog dirt.
Here's my tale..
Bought new imac a few months ago which arrived with Mavericks installed. Worked like a charm. Ran it for 2 weeks on Mavericks. Wifi fast, responsive no issues. Upgraded to Yosemite and problems started. 10.10.1 Wifi slow, Safari pages begin to load (blue bar gets so far then stops). Browser times out and says can't contact server. I'm annoyed but hey, fingers crossed for 10.10.2 it surely can't make it worse?..... It did.
Under 10.10.2 it sometimes works ok but often get the same website timeouts and disconnects. However it also now sometimes completely drops the connection altogether and also occasionally shows the WiFi symbol with a big exclamation mark through it. Wonderful! Wish I'd stayed put on Mavericks.
Please don't tell me that my network is at fault as wifi worked like a dream under Mavericks. Only thing I've changed is to upgrade to Yosemite which is clearly dog dirt.
Nay. If anything, it's worse for me. For a much more detailed (and more grumpy) reply, see here: https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=20659143#post20659143
Is that 99.9% figure based on real statistics, or is it one you just made up?
Is that 99.9% figure based on real statistics, or is it one you just made up?
I think I will have to do a full Internet Restore. I really don't want to as I would like keep up to date. I never upgraded my 2006 imac from Tiger and found myself slowly being cut off from everything as OSX advanced.
I will say, however, that I still use my 2006 imac. It boots up in 25 secs, same as the day I bought it. Hasn't put a foot out of place in 9 years. Tiger still runs perfectly. Clearly my mistake was to upgrade the OS...as directed by my computer. Furious.
If you haven't already try disabling Bluetooth and see if the WiFi degradation is related to BT. Also ASUS has just released an update to one of their routers indicating they had some work to do to enhance Yosemite compatibilty, this is significant because a) it indicates their are routers out there with bad/incomplete support for standards (hence they feel the need to fix), and b) routers commonly are built around chipsets used in other routers so this may be a more common issue with other router manufacturers too...
Sure but if Tiger and an old iMac met your needs then you wouldn't have had to upgrade, if you put a set of hw and sw into a frozen state it will likely stay as functional as it was at that point. I intend to do this to continue to use Aperture until I am ready to decide on what to move to for instance.
Boot times have got extended as they become dependant on external factors as well as loading more code and setting up services (obviously Tiger didn't have to worry about iCloud, consequently doesn't have to fire off access and allow timeouts if no connection possible etc etc).
The downside is you fall behind in new function, compatibility with other devices (router speeds etc), and potentially security.
Its the price of progress
My old imac doesn't meet my needs. Hence I bought a new one. However it works very well as a standalone isolated machine running Logic in my small music studio.
I honestly have no need for a more advanced OS than Tiger and if Apple supported their old operating systems I would be very content. However, I can no longer use itunes or Safari on my old imac and it is not secure for on-line work.
I upgraded to Yosemite on my new mac because I didn't want it to become obsolete and felt that upgrading when the machine was brand new and virtually empty would limit complications.
Thanks for info on router. I'll look into it.
I honestly have no need for a more advanced OS than Tiger and if Apple supported their old operating systems I would be very content. However, I can no longer use itunes or Safari on my old imac and it is not secure for on-line work.
I upgraded to Yosemite on my new mac because I didn't want it to become obsolete and felt that upgrading when the machine was brand new and virtually empty would limit complications.
Thanks for info on router. I'll look into it.
No problem, there is a thread on here in which it is mentioned by the user in some detail.
You could also think about getting a wireless-to-ethernet router. So you have your present wifi station, then you have a wifi box outside your mac, which plugs into your mac via ethernet. Hence, bypass internal wifi.
Actually seems to have BROKEN it on my iMac. Everything was fine before. I'm SO tired of these faulty Apple updates!!!!!
Ethernet is no better....
http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/161837/bonjour-visibility-dropping-over-ethernet-only
10.10.2 seemed worse for Wifi for me. I've given up for now.
iMac late 2013, came with Mavericks, internet over Wifi.
I've been holding off upgrading to Yosemite for a while.
A few days ago I upgraded to Yosemite 10.10.1?; it seemed OK for a couple of days.
Then the 10.10.2 upgrade came along and I applied it. I could not keep Wifi working for more than about 30 seconds before losing effective connectivity (the Mac *thought* it was still connected, but no data would come through).
I downgraded to Mavericks (Time Machine restore) and things were back working.
I tried again with Yosemite 10.10.2, including various fixes listen in OSXDaily.
The next thing I'll probably try is a clean Yosemite install, but I don't currently have a spare USB stick to do it.
iMac late 2013, came with Mavericks, internet over Wifi.
I've been holding off upgrading to Yosemite for a while.
A few days ago I upgraded to Yosemite 10.10.1?; it seemed OK for a couple of days.
Then the 10.10.2 upgrade came along and I applied it. I could not keep Wifi working for more than about 30 seconds before losing effective connectivity (the Mac *thought* it was still connected, but no data would come through).
I downgraded to Mavericks (Time Machine restore) and things were back working.
I tried again with Yosemite 10.10.2, including various fixes listen in OSXDaily.
The next thing I'll probably try is a clean Yosemite install, but I don't currently have a spare USB stick to do it.
That's exactly the behaviour I was getting immediately following the upgrade to 10.10.2
It seems to have settled down a bit now and become more reliable. Far from perfect though. Perhaps something has automatically reconfigured itself. I've not been near it the last day or so. I'll monitor it over the next few days and see what happens.