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Upgrade to High Sierra, or Stay on Low Sierra?

Mathias Denichi

Mathias Denichi

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I just recently received my 2017 MacBook Pro with Touch Bar 15". It's still on Sierra. Should I stay on Sierra, or is it safe to go to a non dev version of High Sierra? I was reading of the 560 issues with waking on High Sierra, and Im not sure if that was only a beta.
 
Some small percentage will always run in the problems, but I'm having none with the 10.3.1 update. Wake sometimes take a few seconds if the machine has been left alone for a while and dwindled off into deep sleep. Some older versions of applications may cause a problem or two, but you should acquire applications that have released updates that adapts to the new code in High Sierra.
 
Do you have any applications that require one over the other? If not, I'd stick with Sierra for now. I've got some hardware that may not have updated drivers so Sierra is where I've settled with my laptop.
 
OP:
If everything is currently running as you wish -- without problems -- you might just "stay back" a little while, until High Sierra gets to 10.13.3 or so.

IF you want to experiment with High Sierra, I'd suggest you do so with an EXTERNAL drive.
Install a copy of HS on the external, and boot and run with it that way and "test things out".
A USB3 SSD would be good for this, but even a platter-based HDD will do. Boot times will be slower, but it will still run.
 
i updated my 2017 13 mbp ntb to high sierra. it's been good so far except that some time when i plug it in and shut the lid, it will take forever (like 30 sec) to wake it up. i'll be clicking the mousepad and tapping the power button wondering what is going on.
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doitdada said:
Some small percentage will always run in the problems, but I'm having none with the 10.3.1 update. Wake sometimes take a few seconds if the machine has been left alone for a while and dwindled off into deep sleep. Some older versions of applications may cause a problem or two, but you should acquire applications that have released updates that adapts to the new code in High Sierra.
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that's my problem! good to see mine is not an isolated case.
 
ghanwani said:
i updated my 2017 13 mbp ntb to high sierra. it's been good so far except that some time when i plug it in and shut the lid, it will take forever (like 30 sec) to wake it up. i'll be clicking the mousepad and tapping the power button wondering what is going on.
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that's my problem! good to see mine is not an isolated case.
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After SMC reset and a clean install I got the wakeup time down to 3-5 seconds, but it seems like forever. Before it didn't wake at all sometimes and I had to do a hard reset. This was even more present on Sierra and High Sierra 10.13, but seems a lot milder on 10.13.1. Haven't really had any problems after the first update to High Sierra.
 
doitdada said:
After SMC reset and a clean install I got the wakeup time down to 3-5 seconds, but it seems like forever. Before it didn't wake at all sometimes and I had to do a hard reset. This was even more present on Sierra and High Sierra 10.13, but seems a lot milder on 10.13.1. Haven't really had any problems after the first update to High Sierra.
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Interesting. I upgraded directly to 10.13.1. Never had any delays at all before that.
 
I have both on two partitions, and been using High Sierra almost exclusively for several weeks

Mature Sierra just seems better to me, and High Sierra offers pretty much no benefits for me

its not terrible, but its not fantastic either some occasional weird bugs. I probably should update it tho its been a bit.
 
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You can always change , unlike iOS.

My rule of thumb, if you use the machine for work/income , upgrade at x.3 , by the 3 major upstate, should be settled .

Ask yourself, is there anything in high sierra you really need ? If so, you can upgrade and see how it goes .
 
The positives of going with High Sierra is that you're getting the latest and greatest security patches and in my uneducated thinking, its probably more secure.

With that said, your usage habits will play into that, i.e., if limit your surfing to generic news or technology sites, don't install unknown apps, etc etc.

I'm on high sierra on my iMac and still running legacy Sierra on my MBP and I'm not seeing much of a difference when I switch between them.
 
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As Sierra and El Cap are still both supported one hopes that they will remain equally secure.

I am also grateful for all the early adopters who get things nice and comfy for me ahead of my arrival. :)
 
thadoggfather said:
I have both on two partitions, and been using High Sierra almost exclusively for several weeks

Mature Sierra just seems better to me, and High Sierra offers pretty much no benefits for me

its not terrible, but its not fantastic either some occasional weird bugs. I probably should update it tho its been a bit.
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This is the sort of feedback that's helpful for those of us still pre-HS. The only tempting thing about HS is that the AppleWatch unlock trick with a Series 3 AW only works with HS.
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maflynn said:
The positives of going with High Sierra is that you're getting the latest and greatest security patches and in my uneducated thinking, its probably more secure.

With that said, your usage habits will play into that, i.e., if limit your surfing to generic news or technology sites, don't install unknown apps, etc etc.

I'm on high sierra on my iMac and still running legacy Sierra on my MBP and I'm not seeing much of a difference when I switch between them.
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More helpful feedback, thank you.
 
newellj said:
This is the sort of feedback that's helpful for those of us still pre-HS. The only tempting thing about HS is that the AppleWatch unlock trick with a Series 3 AW only works with HS.
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More helpful feedback, thank you.
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I haven't upgraded, but doesn't the Apple mail in High Sierra allow you to edit more than one email? I hate the way apple's mail makes you put the mail in draft if you suddenly need to send or receive an email ... and then it doesn't make it simple to finish the mail you were editing and then send it. IMO Apple's draft mail mode is awful. I thought High Sierra fixed that ...
 
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I haven't upgraded, but doesn't the Apple mail in High Sierra allow you to edit more than one email? I hate the way apple's mail makes you put the mail in draft if you suddenly need to send or receive an email ... and then it doesn't make it simple to finish the mail you were editing and then send it. IMO Apple's draft mail mode is awful. I thought High Sierra fixed that ...
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I don't understand what you are doing with mail. I have multiple emails in various stages of reading and writing open most of the time. As long as I've been using macs I've been able to work on multiple emails.
 
I'm personally still on Sierra and El Capitan on my two main systems, and High Sierra on less-important Macs. I'll probably update to High Sierra on the more important machines once the slower wake times seem less common, after DiskWarrior for APFS is released, and after giving Users that rely on encryption time to ensure FileVault w/ APFS provides the same seamless experience and virtually zero performance loss as FileVault w/ HFS+, in the longer run of things.
 
I have no issues other then my bamboo pen tablet doesn’t work anymore and i had it for over 10 years!!! Learned a bit too late that Wiacom isn’t rushing to upgrade those drivers so I had to buy Intuos tablet from them instead:((
 
I have made the decision to stay with Sierra indefinitely. What I have is good enough on it. I love my Photoshop CS6 and the latest version of Office doesn't require anything in High Sierra to warrant upgrading. Security is of course a concern, but stability is important enough for me not to make the move. In a couple years when I plan to replace my MacBook Pro, I will just change out to a new version of macOS. I have ready quite a number of reports of bad experience with High Sierra not warrant taking the plunge.
 
I upgrade all but one of my Macs to High Sierra. I've found it a bit quicker but I definitely like the tweaks in Mail and Safari. That made it worthwhile alone.
 
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