USB-C in Europe

[RaphaZ]

Hi!

For future proof buying, would you consider M1 MacBook Air, as the USB-C Will become universal in Europe? May be MagSafe could be isolated.
Thank you

 

[astorre]

what exactly you wanna future proof here?

 

[astorre]

Also USB-C will have to be on phones, tables and cameras, not laptops
EU laptop market is dominated by other brands, not by Apple, and those laptops require much more juice, even my not so special work laptop with i7 and integrated graphics has 180W power supply, you cannot just switch that to USB-C with 100W limit

 

[theluggage]

Also USB-C will have to be on phones, tables and cameras, not laptops

Laptops will also have to be adapted to the requirements by 40 months after the entry into force.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news...cing-hassle-for-consumers-and-curbing-e-waste

...but then all current MacBooks can already be charged by USB-C and with MagSafe 3 the chargers have USB-C sockets too, so I'd have thought the worst case would be MagSafe cables becoming an optional extra - but whom knows? All of the coverage so far has been about phones which Apple, along with the rest of the industry, are probably planning to move to USB-C anyhow. The interesting implications are for (a) laptops and (b) every other cheap-jack bit of electronics that currently comes with a basic 12V wall-wart and barrel connector but will now, supposedly, have to implement USB power delivery?

 

[yabeweb]

Hi!

For future proof buying, would you consider M1 MacBook Air, as the USB-C Will become universal in Europe? May be MagSafe could be isolated.
Thank you

M2 ASir still charges trough USBC if needed..

Also EU is not gonna rip the Magsafe port from your computer anyway.... so I don't fully comprehend the question.

 

[astorre]

...but then all current MacBooks can already be charged by USB-C and with MagSafe 3 the chargers have USB-C sockets too, so I'd have thought the worst case would be MagSafe cables becoming an optional extra - but whom knows? All of the coverage so far has been about phones which Apple, along with the rest of the industry, are probably planning to move to USB-C anyhow. The interesting implications are for (a) laptops and (b) every other cheap-jack bit of electronics that currently comes with a basic 12V wall-wart and barrel connector but will now, supposedly, have to implement USB power delivery?

"Laptops will also have to be adapted to the requirements by 40 months after the entry into force."
I guess this means that laptops will have to have at least one USB-C port for charging to comply with this, but this wont mean that more powerfull laptops, like 16" with MAX SoC or gaming laptops with 300W power supplies will have to make proprietary connector go away.

also there will be exception for watches/armbands that cannot be physically fitted with USB-C

 

[theluggage]

but this wont mean that more powerfull laptops, like 16" with MAX SoC or gaming laptops with 300W power supplies will have to make proprietary connector go away

...but the MacBook Air, which has just acquired a MagSafe & was what @RaphaZ was asking about, doesn't fall into that category... the "justification" for MagSafe (apart from the whole "MagSafe" bit) is fast charging and part of the EU plan is to try and unify "fast charging" standards. As I said, the result is probably that a MagSafe cable will be an optional extra for a MBA (the charger might have to be "unbundled" anyway) but that's assuming that the EU don't try and extend the ban on magsafe sockets on <120W devices. (If it's like most EU directives, the rules still have to be passed into law by each member state, with ample room for "interpretation" and "gold plating")

also there will be exception for watches/armbands that cannot be physically fitted with USB-C

I guess those will be the first to go wireless (if they haven't already) and AFAIK the EU only has hand-waving and warm fuzzy feelings about unifying wireless charging at the moment - gotta fix the custom phone charger "problem" that went away 10 years ago first!

 

[RaphaZ]

M2 ASir still charges trough USBC if needed..

Also EU is not gonna rip the Magsafe port from your computer anyway.... so I don't fully comprehend the question.

I didn’t know that you could still charge the new MBA M2 with USB-C!

 

[yabeweb]

I didn’t know that you could still charge the new MBA M2 with USB-C!

Yes all new mac with magsafe can still be charged with USB-C

Charge your MacBook Air or MacBook Pro - Apple Support (IE)

Depending on your Mac laptop, you can charge your battery with MagSafe 3 or USB-C.

support.apple.com

Use a USB-C charge cable​

You can use any of the Thunderbolt 4 (USB-C) ports to charge your Mac with a USB-C charge cable. Your Mac charges over only one port at a time, so connecting multiple power adapters to the MagSafe 3 port and Thunderbolt 4 (USB-C) ports won't result in faster charging. If you connect more than one power source, your Mac charges only from the adapter providing the most power.