Using Bootcamp on new MBP

[outlandos]

We don't like to use Windows...

And as my new MBP is on it's way I am wondering one thing:

I download lots of stuff with Newsleecher (newsgroups) and unfortunately that program is made for Windows only. Now, when I use Bootcamp and start Windows XP to download (for example) a movie, will I then be able to transfer that file (the movie) to OS X without having to burn it?

Or is this impossible?

 

[thefoo]

Simple answer: Use a usb disk drive.

Complex answer: You could try Parallels, just be careful of the Microsoft licensing issues that have been dogging uptake so far.

 

[jdechko]

You should be fine as OS X has both NTFS and FAT32 read-capabilities (though NTFS is read-only). And file downloaded under XP will be able to be accessed on the Windows Partition. If you get MacDrive, you can read and write HFS partitions under Windows, allowing you to copy files over to the Mac OS X partition.

Of course, with what you're doing, rebooting into XP just to download a file using a Windows-only program seems silly, when you could run Parallels in coherence mode with shared folders (or whatever it's called) allowing you to save the movie directly in OS X.

Of course, I wouldn't be a good MR citizen if I didn't remind you that you shouldn't download copyrighted materials - not saying that you do.

 

[outlandos]

You should be fine as OS X has both NTFS and FAT32 read-capabilities (though NTFS is read-only). And file downloaded under XP will be able to be accessed on the Windows Partition. If you get MacDrive, you can read and write HFS partitions under Windows, allowing you to copy files over to the Mac OS X partition.

Of course, with what you're doing, rebooting into XP just to download a file using a Windows-only program seems silly, when you could run Parallels in coherence mode with shared folders (or whatever it's called) allowing you to save the movie directly in OS X.

Of course, I wouldn't be a good MR citizen if I didn't remind you that you shouldn't download copyrighted materials - not saying that you do.

Then I better get Parallels, but with the recent Microsoft licensing issues, will I be able to run Windows XP on Parallels or will I have to buy Vista Ultimate?

 

[jdechko]

Both will work fine in virtualization (Parallels, VMWare), but XP states nothing about prohibiting the user from running XP in Virtualization, while the more basic versions of Vista do. I'm not sure, but I think the Business Edition (which, if I were forced to upgrade XP, that's what I'd get) doesn't "disallow"--not sure if Vista actually prevents it, but it says not to the the EULA--use in virtualization.

I'd still recommend XP over Vista to almost everyone - and an OEM copy of XP will be pretty cheap.

 

[thefoo]

Then I better get Parallels, but with the recent Microsoft licensing issues, will I be able to run Windows XP on Parallels or will I have to buy Vista Ultimate?

That, my friend, is the $64k question. Last week Microsoft were set to confirm Vista Home Basic/Premium could be installed into Parallels (as was my reading of the EULA which appears to concern OEM copies), then they did a U-turn and announced their "previous policy" would remain intact. See ComputerWorld for more. Their "previous policy" doesn't stipulate one way or the other.

Having spoken to a contact at Microsoft UK on the matter I now strongly believe they have absolutely no idea what the EULA clause is intended to prevent, even at the programme-manager level (I have my reasons).

All I know for certain is that there is an internal document doing the rounds at Microsoft and this matter is featured in it. He declined to let loose any more details obviously. I'm hoping to get a call back in the coming days.

 

[outlandos]

Let's hope XP Pro will be allowed then.

 

[Strigoi]

Doesnt 'The Windows HD' show up @ Mac OS X Desktop? Or is this one of those nasty bootcamp fairytails?

 

[outlandos]

Doesnt 'The Windows HD' show up @ Mac OS X Desktop? Or is this one of those nasty bootcamp fairytails?

No clue what you'r talking about mate!

 

[thefoo]

Doesnt 'The Windows HD' show up @ Mac OS X Desktop? Or is this one of those nasty bootcamp fairytails?

That is a good question. If Mac can ready the Windows partition's filesystem format, surely you can add it to /etc/fstab or whatever the Mac uses for mountable filesystem information.

It would essentially be seen like a USB disk.

 

[outlandos]

Doesnt 'The Windows HD' show up @ Mac OS X Desktop? Or is this one of those nasty bootcamp fairytails?

Has anyone got more information about this so called "The Windows HD"?

Because that would make it much easier!

 

[taylorwilsdon]

Has anyone got more information about this so called "The Windows HD"?

Because that would make it much easier!

Yes it shows up but Mac can't read NFTS without some hacking. If you format the Windows partition as FAT32 then you can drag and drop from it while you're in OSX.

 

[outlandos]

Yes it shows up but Mac can't read NFTS without some hacking. If you format the Windows partition as FAT32 then you can drag and drop from it while you're in OSX.

Nice and how do I format the Windows partition as FAT32?

 

[coogee]

Just follow the instructions to install Boot Camp and you'll be confronted with the normal XP blue screen to choose fomat options - NTFS or FAT32..
The XP partition appears on the desktop and you can then just drag drop anything over.

Boot Camp & XP, installed far easier than I was expecting, easier than XP on my PC!
Only problem I had was the soundcard wasn't picked up and camera is borked, but soundcard appears under System as an unrecognised PCI Device, just update driver and sorted.
Haven't bothered with the Camera as I don't need it in Windows.

 

[WirelessInn]

Using Bootcamp on new MBP

[QUOTE=jdechko;3811482]You should be fine as OS X has both NTFS and FAT32 read-capabilities (though NTFS is read-only). And file downloaded under XP will be able to be accessed on the Windows Partition. If you get MacDrive, you can read and write HFS partitions under Windows, allowing you to copy files over to the Mac OS X partition.

Of course, I wouldn't be a good MR citizen if I didn't remind you that you shouldn't download copyrighted materials - not saying that you do. [/QUOTE]

Greetings: just installed BC and WinXPpro. Works exceptionally well indeed. Very smooth and very fast Win. Very few glitches. I am even running MS Flight Simulator X (very demanding program, as all know) and it runs very smooth. i am pleased - finally - with my MBP, following weeks haggling with its definitely inadequate WiFi performance: especially, since it has also been pointed out elsewhere in the Forums), WiFi performs very well UNDER WINDOWS!!!

Now, I want to try Mac Drive to be able to read/write to the Mac partition - of course, Mac OSX can already READ the Win partition.

Will installing Mac Drive in any way impact access speed performance by either Mac OSX or WIndows t their RESPECTIVE partition?? I plan to run apps in both MACOSX and Windows (besides FSX!) which rely on fast disk access. I do not want to jeopardize that so far, the MBP provides for that!

- Roger T