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Using iCloud for Cal/Addr Book with iOS4?

ayeying

ayeying

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So. I'm considering downgrading one of my devices back to iOS4. All of my devices are currently synced via iCloud for Address Book and Calendar events.

Now, if I downgrade one of the devices, can I still sync, via iTunes, the same information (just won't be pushed through wirelessly or 3G) or is iCloud information, exclusive to iCloud only?
 
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hazkid

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Oct 18, 2007
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Set iCloud up in iOS 4/Snow Leopard as CalDav/CardDav accounts.
Contact server: https://p02-contacts.icloud.com:443/[uniqueid]/carddavhome
Calendar server: https://p02-caldav.icloud.com:443/[uniqueid]/principal

Your unique iCloud ID can be found in Lion at ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook/Sources/[iCloud Account ID]/Configuration.plist.

I'm not sure if the uniqueid thing is actually necessary. I tried setting up my accounts without it at first and it didn't work, but your milage may vary.
 
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uofawildcats96

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Is there anyway that I can find my Unique ID without Lion? I am considering doing the same thing as the OP. However, I'm just an iOS developer and not a mac developer, therefore I don't have access to Lion yet, to access my ID.

Thank you.
 
k.alexander

k.alexander

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Can't get this to work. Can someone give a step by step. I can login to the webapps on iCloud.com, but can't setup the iCal or AddressBook on my Snow Leopard machine.
 
k.alexander

k.alexander

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applephysci said:
hazkid made this quite clear in his posts above.
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I'm saying, I can get this to work on an iOS4 device, but I can't get this to work on Snow Leopard--which is my ultimate goal. Setting up iCloud with the the servers listed in Snow Leopard gives me errors and never connects to the server, likewise I tried setting it up on a Lion machine, and there was no Sources folder at the address bellow:

~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook/Sources/[iCloud Account ID]/Configuration.plist
 
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steinbch

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Can anyone that has gotten this to work share what the Unique User ID looks like? Is it a set of numbers, how many, letters? Trying to see if the iCloud website calls this ID at any point when viewing the calendar.
 
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kby

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Oct 13, 2011
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icloud unique identifier

I haven't gotten it to work yet, but I think I know how to get the unique identifier w/o Lion if you are running iOS 5 on an iPhone. After setting up iCloud on the iPhone, back up the iPhone with iTunes, then find the files for the latest backup in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/ (that directory contains more directories with unintellible strings by names, but ls -lt will show them in order of most recent and should show one with the date you just backed up). Go to the first directory and you will see a number of files, also with arbitrary string names (this needs to be done in a terminal or xterm window, btw). to the shell type:
find . -type f -exec strings \{\} ;\ | grep -i icloud

Eventually you will see a number of strings of the form:

https://[apple-id]@p07-caldav.icloud.com:443/<unique-id>/calendars/...

There will be analgous URLs for bookmarks and address book contacts.

The unique ID I find this way is a 6 digit number. My icloud authentication information is my Apple ID.

Note it's p07-caldav.icloud.com vs. p02. But I can't seem to get either to work properly yet. Partly it seems iCal wants to add /principal or something on the URL and otherwise munge it.

Does this form of unique-id match what the people that found it on Lion see?

I thought I saw with a google search that you'd be able to sync directly for snow leopard. Me, I'm using a G5 so am stuck at leopard.
 
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ScoobyDoofus

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Partial Success!

I've managed to get iCloud calendars working in iCal (Snow Leopard) using the info provided above, but not contacts in Address Book.

In iCal, I just added a new CalDAV account, used my iCloud login info (full email address as username) and for the server I used (no https or anything) p02-caldav.icloud.com. It did a search of some kind, and asked me to choose between a Google account(!) and p02-caldav.icloud.com, so I picked the iCloud one and it worked!

When I went into the Server Settings for that account, it had filled in the Server Path itself with /{uniqueID}/principal/ and port was set to auto, SSL was ticked.

It syncs everything with my iPad and the web app, even the reminders.

So, I tried with the contacts too, first doing the same (just basic server info) and no luck, so I tried the full server address given above, but still no good. It also fills in some server info, but it doesn't look right, and clearly doesn't work. Annoying!

Finally, I added the calDav account again using p07 instead of p02, and it worked too, so I don't know if the number actually matters.
 
Piplodocus

Piplodocus

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Got no joy with p02-contacts or p02-caldav or with p03-xxxx as suggested on another site.

When I looked for the unique ID in my configuration.plist file as mentioned above though, I noticed mine said p04-xxx, so tried that p04-contacts.icloud.com (with no unique ID, or port number) and it worked! Same for p04-caldav.xxxx! :)

So AFAIK it's more worth checking the .plist file in lion for the p number, rather than the UID or anything else.
 
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kby

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Oct 13, 2011
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Thanks for confirming that the p0n number in the server doesn't matter—I'd normally guess that, but it's nice to know.

I think there must be some update in the Snow Leopard iCal that makes it better able to connect to random CalDAV servers. Leopard iCal doesn't give you an SSL option, only Kerberos, although it knows how to use SSL if you give it an https. It also seems a little buggy if you repeatedly just try to adjust the URL; seems to give inconsistent results (although I'm not totally clear on that).

The URL iCal seems to want to substitute is something of the form

https://(server):443/principals/users/(apple-id)/ if you give it the minimum info (in my case https://(server):443 since that seems to be the only way to force SSL—letting it try to do it in the clear just to see if it works doesn't work either as iCloud wisely doesn't want to let you connect).-kby
 
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Piplodocus

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kby said:
Thanks for confirming that the p0n number in the server doesn't matter—I'd normally guess that, but it's nice to know.

I think there must be some update in the Snow Leopard iCal that makes it better able to connect to random CalDAV servers. Leopard iCal doesn't give you an SSL option, only Kerberos, although it knows how to use SSL if you give it an https. It also seems a little buggy if you repeatedly just try to adjust the URL; seems to give inconsistent results (although I'm not totally clear on that).

The URL iCal seems to want to substitute is something of the form

https://(server):443/principals/users/(apple-id)/ if you give it the minimum info (in my case https://(server):443 since that seems to be the only way to force SSL—letting it try to do it in the clear just to see if it works doesn't work either as iCloud wisely doesn't want to let you connect).-kby
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Oh! Seems quite contrary to what I saw on my iPod touch 2G. :confused: When I gave it the wrong p0n it didn't happen, even with ports and an "https:", but with the right p number I didn't need the port or to tell it it was secure. Took a little bit thinking about it but then connected up with no extra info other than the username@me.com and password!

Admittedly I didn't have a /principals/users/apple-id.... on the end and it was iOS 4, not Leopard or SL I was going for though...
 
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kby

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Oct 13, 2011
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A little more info

Ok, I tried things on an iPad (not iPad 2) with iOS 4, and things are much easier. I could just use caldav.icloud.com as the server and it could connect and see all the calendars. After looking, under "advanced settings", it had automagically set the "Account URL" to

https://p07-caldev.icloud.com:443/<unique-id>/principal

Unfortunately for me, Leopard's iCal doesn't do well with this as is.
It WILL accept it with a trailing "/" so the account is added, but it can't find calendars. I've tried tweaking the URL and such with various combitions involving "principal" and "calendars" but either I get a connect error or "no calendar home" error.

More to do…-kby
 
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davekeyboardo

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Jun 3, 2008
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Address Book still n/g with SL

Was able to get Snow Leopard iCal working as per the post above where SL just "finds" the config. However, no luck with Address Book with any of the methods described. The error you get is "Too many HTTP redirects" after Address Book attempts to connect.

Have tried using and not using the uniqueID string... Also, there is the separate SSL checkbox and port box. I've tried enabling and disabling, but no luck there… could it be that issue and if so, does anyone have an insight as to the port number required?

Anyone get any more insights or a working method for Snow Leopard Address Book yet?
 
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anorris

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Jul 23, 2011
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Easier way to find your p## server here - http://maggiemcfee.com/2011/10/13/icloudical/

Just login to iCloud and share a calendar publicly (it can be empty or a dummy, and you can unshare it immediately after). The webcal:// address will be formatted with p##-www.icloud, so use p##-caldav.icloud for your iCal server address.

Was able to get iCal functioning on my old MacBook Pro that freezes intermittently with Lion and I've put back on Snow Leopard thanks to this thread and the other site. Thanks to all of you, and I'll probably try AddressBook once I get back home, but for now it is off to work for me.
 
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jsgreen

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I found this on a apple support discussion thread at

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3103493?start=15&tstart=0

After playing a bit I got iCloud calendars and contacts working on an iPhone 3g (running iOS 4.2.1)


Key part of the thread (thanks to a user named Puregeof) was:

Calendar server address :
p01-caldav.icloud.com
Port is 443 (SSL)
Advanced server string is:
p01-caldav.icloud.com:443/[unique ID}/principal

note - when I got this to work, I didn't have to enter anything in the advanced section)


Contacts server address :
p01-contacts.icloud.com


The "p01" could be different for different users - look in your ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook/Sources/[iCloud Account ID]/Configuration.plist to find the specific server address.


I found that I had to delete a previous MobileMe account to get it working, although others in the same discussion didn't have to do that.
 
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davekeyboardo

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Jun 3, 2008
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Thanks... I tried the server address mentioned for contacts and it doesn't work for me on Snow Leopard to get to my iCloud account either with the generic server address given or with the longer variants listed above with my unique numerical ID grabbed from the Plist on my Lion-based Mac that connects to iCloud. The person quoted as using an iPhone; I would have hoped that the server address would be the same, but something isn't right…

If anyone gets the recipe for Snow Leopard, look forward to hearing it...
 
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anorris

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Jul 23, 2011
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davekeyboardo said:
If anyone gets the recipe for Snow Leopard, look forward to hearing it...
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Same, I've had no luck with Contacts. Luckily, I don't use Address Book too often, but was hoping to start transitioning that way as I hope to buy an iPhone in the relatively near future.
 
grahamperrin

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contacts.icloud.com

jsgreen said:
The "p01" could be different for different users - look in your ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook/Sources/[iCloud Account ID]/Configuration.plist to find the specific server address.
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Probably best to use simply contacts.icloud.com

without any p…- prefix
 
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johnnyboyvzw

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Feb 7, 2011
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kby said:
I haven't gotten it to work yet, but I think I know how to get the unique identifier w/o Lion if you are running iOS 5 on an iPhone. After setting up iCloud on the iPhone, back up the iPhone with iTunes, then find the files for the latest backup in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/ (that directory contains more directories with unintellible strings by names, but ls -lt will show them in order of most recent and should show one with the date you just backed up). Go to the first directory and you will see a number of files, also with arbitrary string names (this needs to be done in a terminal or xterm window, btw). to the shell type:
find . -type f -exec strings \{\} ;\ | grep -i icloud

Eventually you will see a number of strings of the form:

https://[apple-id]@p07-caldav.icloud.com:443/<unique-id>/calendars/...

There will be analgous URLs for bookmarks and address book contacts.

The unique ID I find this way is a 6 digit number. My icloud authentication information is my Apple ID.

Note it's p07-caldav.icloud.com vs. p02. But I can't seem to get either to work properly yet. Partly it seems iCal wants to add /principal or something on the URL and otherwise munge it.

Does this form of unique-id match what the people that found it on Lion see?

I thought I saw with a google search that you'd be able to sync directly for snow leopard. Me, I'm using a G5 so am stuck at leopard.
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Your terminal command came back with a syntax error. Would you mind correcting it?

grahamperrin said:
Probably best to use simply contacts.icloud.com

without any p…- prefix
Click to expand...

Also not working. Has anyone had any success yet with iCloud contacts and Address Book under Snow Leopard?
 
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