using internal ssd with Macbook Pro?

[stanleystf]

I intend to purchase an internal SSD and use it as an external SSD with my Macbook. Something like this:

SAMSUNG 870 QVO SATA III SSD 8TB 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive, Upgrade Desktop PC or Laptop Memory and Storage for IT Pros, Creators, Everyday Users, MZ-77Q8T0B

Sequential Read/Write performance reaching up to 560/530 MB/s provides best in class performance via the SATA interface. Accelerated read performance up to 13% faster than 860 QVO for added benefits for everyday computing. 870 QVO provides adequate amount of TBW for daily use, equivalent to 3 bit...

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Do I need anything other than an e-sata to usb-c convertor? Would it work smoothly?

What convertors do you recommend?

 

[astorre]

why just not buy external SSD? with internal you need either enclosure or just sata to usb adapter

 

[kylinblue]

I intend to purchase an internal SSD and use it as an external SSD with my Macbook. Something like this:

SAMSUNG 870 QVO SATA III SSD 8TB 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive, Upgrade Desktop PC or Laptop Memory and Storage for IT Pros, Creators, Everyday Users, MZ-77Q8T0B

Sequential Read/Write performance reaching up to 560/530 MB/s provides best in class performance via the SATA interface. Accelerated read performance up to 13% faster than 860 QVO for added benefits for everyday computing. 870 QVO provides adequate amount of TBW for daily use, equivalent to 3 bit...

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Do I need anything other than an e-sata to usb-c convertor? Would it work smoothly?

What convertors do you recommend?

You need an enclosure. Get a quality one with usb c such as this one https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-External-Drive-Enclosure-2-5Inch/dp/B07Y825V4N/

 

[Ray2]

I intend to purchase an internal SSD and use it as an external SSD with my Macbook. Something like this:

SAMSUNG 870 QVO SATA III SSD 8TB 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive, Upgrade Desktop PC or Laptop Memory and Storage for IT Pros, Creators, Everyday Users, MZ-77Q8T0B

Sequential Read/Write performance reaching up to 560/530 MB/s provides best in class performance via the SATA interface. Accelerated read performance up to 13% faster than 860 QVO for added benefits for everyday computing. 870 QVO provides adequate amount of TBW for daily use, equivalent to 3 bit...

www.amazon.com

Do I need anything other than an e-sata to usb-c convertor? Would it work smoothly?

What convertors do you recommend?

Bit confused here. Why the converter? Are you not installing it in an enclosure? You know they get hot enough that you’re not going to be able to touch it?

I do these. I install in Oyen Minipro dualies, singles and dirt cheap OWC Express enclosures. Plug and play. Great approach. Oyen will build with the same drive, might check pricing.

 

[Ray2]

why just not buy external SSD? with internal you need either enclosure or just sata to usb adapter

Large drives, better drives as manufacturers don’t mess with dumbed down approaches that rarely meet spec, cheaper, more flexible. In tech, prepackages usually means throw away.

 

[stanleystf]

why just not buy external SSD? with internal you need either enclosure or just sata to usb adapter

I couldn't find an 8TB external ssd at a decent price.

The biggest external ssd Samsung offers is only 2TB.

 

[stanleystf]

Bit confused here. Why the converter? Are you not installing it in an enclosure? You know they get hot enough that you’re not going to be able to touch it?

Really? SSD? I have some external SSDs and they never get hot! I don't intend to touch the SSD when it's being used.

I was thinking of using it without an enclosure. I know I can't carry it, though.
In that case, would a Sata to USB-C convertor be enough?

 

[kylinblue]

It’s nearly impossible to run a modern SATA SSD hot unless you put a blanket on it. So a plastic enclosure is adequate. For M.2, they run hot, especially under heavy workload. So a metal enclosure, preferably with heat sink / ribbed. And if you gonna push a m.2 to its max, active cooling is needed.
Also SSD are safe to operate below 70C long term, unlike HDD have accelerated degradation above 40C and should never exceed 55C.

 

[stanleystf]

It’s nearly impossible to run a modern SATA SSD hot unless you put a blanket on it. So a plastic enclosure is adequate. For M.2, they run hot, especially under heavy workload. So a metal enclosure, preferably with heat sink / ribbed. And if you gonna push a m.2 to its max, active cooling is needed.
Also SSD are safe to operate below 70C long term, unlike HDD have accelerated degradation above 40C and should never exceed 55C.

This is not M2, though:

SAMSUNG 870 QVO SATA III SSD 8TB 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive, Upgrade Desktop PC or Laptop Memory and Storage for IT Pros, Creators, Everyday Users, MZ-77Q8T0B

Sequential Read/Write performance reaching up to 560/530 MB/s provides best in class performance via the SATA interface. Accelerated read performance up to 13% faster than 860 QVO for added benefits for everyday computing. 870 QVO provides adequate amount of TBW for daily use, equivalent to 3 bit...

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Is there a chance it will get hot?

 

[chrfr]

This is not M2, though:

SAMSUNG 870 QVO SATA III SSD 8TB 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive, Upgrade Desktop PC or Laptop Memory and Storage for IT Pros, Creators, Everyday Users, MZ-77Q8T0B

Sequential Read/Write performance reaching up to 560/530 MB/s provides best in class performance via the SATA interface. Accelerated read performance up to 13% faster than 860 QVO for added benefits for everyday computing. 870 QVO provides adequate amount of TBW for daily use, equivalent to 3 bit...

www.amazon.com

Is there a chance it will get hot?

Yes, it's quite normal for SSDs to get hot, or at least warm.

 

[stanleystf]

Yes, it's quite normal for SSDs to get hot, or at least warm.

Is it okay if I put it on my table without a cooler?

 

[kylinblue]

This is not M2, though:

SAMSUNG 870 QVO SATA III SSD 8TB 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive, Upgrade Desktop PC or Laptop Memory and Storage for IT Pros, Creators, Everyday Users, MZ-77Q8T0B

Sequential Read/Write performance reaching up to 560/530 MB/s provides best in class performance via the SATA interface. Accelerated read performance up to 13% faster than 860 QVO for added benefits for everyday computing. 870 QVO provides adequate amount of TBW for daily use, equivalent to 3 bit...

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Is there a chance it will get hot?

Did you read the first half first sentence of my reply?

 

[stanleystf]

Can I put a password on an internal SSD connected to my Macbook via sata to usb-c convertor? If so, what software should I use?

If I use a Mac software, will I be able to unlock the device on my Windows machine, too?

 

[kylinblue]

Can I put a password on an internal SSD connected to my Macbook via sata to usb-c convertor? If so, what software should I use?

If I use a Mac software, will I be able to unlock the device on my Windows machine, too?

Use Disk Utility, format it to APFS password encrypted. No further configuration needed.

 

[Fishrrman]

OP:

How about telling us WHICH MacBook Pro you have, and what year it was made?

 

[Alpha Centauri]

Is there a chance it will get hot?

It won't get hot! Internally (MBP) with constant use, they run at about 35C. Btw, the EVO is definately the better buy than the QVO.

 

[stanleystf]

It won't get hot! Internally (MBP) with constant use, they run at about 35C. Btw, the EVO is definately the better buy than the QVO.

Why is EVO better? It doesn't come in 8TB!

 

[Alpha Centauri]

Why is EVO better? It doesn't come in 8TB!

Theoretical longevity. this explains it best. But if you absolutely need 8TB it's a moot point.

 

[mansplains]

I used an EVO without an enclosure with SATA to USB on my previous iMac and I had smooth operation. Since the iMac was stationary at home I didn't have any worry about the environment it was being used in. Using an internal SSD externally on the go may present other challenges I'm unfamiliar with. I see replies about SSDs heating up in normal operation and that wasn't my personal experience.

 

[stanleystf]

Use Disk Utility, format it to APFS password encrypted. No further configuration needed.

Will I be able to use it, lock/unlock it on Windows machines, if I format it that way?

 

[Amethyst1]

Will I be able to use it, lock/unlock it on Windows machines, if I format it that way?

No. Windows can’t handle APFS.

 

[stanleystf]

So, how can I put a password on it and use it on both Windows and Mac?

 

[Ray2]

It’s nearly impossible to run a modern SATA SSD hot unless you put a blanket on it. So a plastic enclosure is adequate. For M.2, they run hot, especially under heavy workload. So a metal enclosure, preferably with heat sink / ribbed. And if you gonna push a m.2 to its max, active cooling is needed.
Also SSD are safe to operate below 70C long term, unlike HDD have accelerated degradation above 40C and should never exceed 55C.

Then you’re not pushing your storage. They don’t need to be M.2. I assumed anyone purchasing an 8TB drive would very likely be writing substantial data at a time. That will generate enough heat in a metal enclosed ssd to make it very uncomfortable, if not too hot, to touch. That heat will take some time to dissipate after the writes are over.

 

[kylinblue]

Then you’re not pushing your storage. They don’t need to be M.2. I assumed anyone purchasing an 8TB drive would very likely be writing substantial data at a time. That will generate enough heat in a metal enclosed ssd to make it very uncomfortable, if not too hot, to touch. That heat will take some time to dissipate after the writes are over.

kek don’t have your hopes up too high. After ~150GB the SLC buffer would run out on the 8TB and you will be limited down to ~150MB/s of writes. Good luck producing any heat from that point. How do I know SATA drives don’t run hot? I own both 1TB 860EVO, 4TB MX500, 1TB Crucial P1(m.2) and a 2TB 970evo plus(m.2). When I move 200GB+ once in a while, it’s the M.2 that gets burning hot after while the SATA ones chugging along slowly but never gets more than “warm”, which is like below 50. You don’t need to trust my anecdotal experience, just look at Guru3D’s torture test result

 

[Alpha Centauri]

Then you’re not pushing your storage. They don’t need to be M.2. I assumed anyone purchasing an 8TB drive would very likely be writing substantial data at a time. That will generate enough heat in a metal enclosed ssd to make it very uncomfortable, if not too hot, to touch. That heat will take some time to dissipate after the writes are over.

I think it depends. An external SATA III I've run in either plastic or aluminium enclosures, barely warm. Well, the 1st Gen SSDs did run warmer from memory but now were talking a decade ago. In my old unibody MBP, iStat Menus never really showed anything above 36C for the drive. In the CD bay, away from the processor, it was even slightly cooler.