iPad Using Ipad for photos - Best Screen cover, or not at all? - Pls Advise

[Marty_Macfly]

Hi Guys,

We are finally sorting our iphone photos into albums etc. I have 30Gb of photos now, over 10 years, and Missus has 17Gb from when she started using iphones.

Looking forward to seeing the photos on a really good, vibrant, large screen.

I have ordered a 12.9 Ipad Pro and magic keyboard, as a 50th Birthday treat for myself We intend to go down memory lane with the photos on my birthday, as something different to do during this lockdown we are all under in the UK.

I won't be travelling with the ipad for quite a while, while covid is going on, apart from doing photos in the garden.


The questions are:

1. Do I put a screen cover on the ipad at all while in lockdown? (I'm assuming the screen will look the best for photos with no cover.)

2. Do I only consider puttinh on a screen cover if I get an apple pencil, and start doing drawings on the screen? (This will be much later with our envisaged Ipad usage for 2020.)


Hope you can advise

Regards
Martin

 

[AutomaticApple]

1. Do I put a screen cover on the ipad at all while in lockdown? (I'm assuming the screen will look the best for photos with no cover.)

The iPad doesn't have a screen cover. Are you referring to screen protectors?

 

[cupcakes2000]

The screen definitely looks better cover less.

However- the screen is definitely better to draw on, and to touch actually, and to remain fingerprint free, with a matte cover on.

The problem with a matte cover is that it can affect the colour displacement slightly, and also make things slightly grainy.

Now, I’m a professional photographer, and I um’d and ah’d about this dilemma.

Ended up test a few which were terrible. Now I use paperlike 2, it’s pretty cool and is the best 3rd party addition I have ever made for an iPad. Doesn’t truly affect the photos or screen clarity to anything unmanageable, and boy it’s even more of a pleasure to touch and write or draw on than a naked screen.

 

[ericwn]

As a hobbyist photographer I never put screen protectors on my iPads. Pencil use hasn’t scratched the screen in three years. You need to keep the screen clean though.

Paper like protectors were mentioned here a few times recent and maybe nice - maybe give those a try. You can always bin them if it doesn’t work out.

 

[Marty_Macfly]

The iPad doesn't have a screen cover. Are you referring to screen protectors?

Hi,

Yes sorry I mean't a screen protector.

newbie naming conventions going on here
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Thanks for the reply guys

Nice to know the ipad screen glass is durable and can survive 3 years of use without a protector

Ok, We will use for our 10 yrs of photos if as is, then worry about a screen protector when/if get pencil

 

[cupcakes2000]

As a hobbyist photographer I never put screen protectors on my iPads. Pencil use hasn’t scratched the screen in three years. You need to keep the screen clean though.

Paper like protectors were mentioned here a few times recent and maybe nice - maybe give those a try. You can always bin them if it doesn’t work out.

It’s not really about scratching the screen, more about how much better it feels to interact with the screen.

 

[ericwn]

It’s not really about scratching the screen, more about how much better it feels to interact with the screen.

I get that’s an important factor but the screen is my main interface to the images so I’d rather not have an extra layer in between that might influence the display output.

 

[cupcakes2000]

I get that’s an important factor but the screen is my main interface to the images so I’d rather not have an extra layer in between that might influence the display output.

Yes I agree and I went back and forth.

I make a living full time as a photographer, and the iPad is my main image editing interface. In my experience it doesn’t interfere with the display output particularly. My clients don’t view their photos on my editing iPad so it’s somewhat irrelevant to me.

It does however make editing them much more pleasurable, and the pencil movements far more precise.

I was I initially concerned with incorrect colours due to displacement, but it has had no real effect on my work.

I guess if you’re mainly viewing your photos on the iPad rather than printing etc, it may be different.

Viewing on my monitors after editing a full set on my iPad shows no signes of inhibited editing due to colour displacement or anything else.

This is with paperlike 2 though, I tried others that were not so good.

 

[richpjr]

Yes I agree and I went back and forth.

I make a living full time as a photographer, and the iPad is my main image editing interface. In my experience it doesn’t interfere with the display output particularly. My clients don’t view their photos on my editing iPad so it’s somewhat irrelevant to me.

It does however make editing them much more pleasurable, and the pencil movements far more precise.

I was I initially concerned with incorrect colours due to displacement, but it has had no real effect on my work.

I guess if you’re mainly viewing your photos on the iPad rather than printing etc, it may be different.

Viewing on my monitors after editing a full set on my iPad shows no signes of inhibited editing due to colour displacement or anything else.

This is with paperlike 2 though, I tried others that were not so good.

What do you edit your photos on the iPad with?

 

[cupcakes2000]

What do you edit your photos on the iPad with?

Depends where I am. Lightroom classic on the Mac is my hub, then I edit using either lightroom CC and affinity photo or using photoshop via sidecar.

 

[ericwn]

Depends where I am. Lightroom classic on the Mac is my hub, then I edit using either lightroom CC and affinity photo or using photoshop via sidecar.

Thanks for sharing! I’d be curious to learn more about your workflows as I find this very interesting!

 

[cupcakes2000]

Thanks for sharing! I’d be curious to learn more about your workflows as I find this very interesting!

Always happy to tell!

I used to work with a 2014 top spec 24gb ram 5k imac. I used a Wacom tablet, but just the cheap one. Bamboo or something. I used lightroom classic and photoshop.
At the beginning of last year I came into some money cos my mom died, only 5k, but I put it into my business as a photographer.

I had been reading about the ‘new’ 2018 iPad Pro and whilst I knew iPads before that- they’d always seemed redundant. Except for showing my portfolios, but hardly relevant.

With a bit of a leap, plus a pinch of forward thinking, I decided to use the money to change my workflow - a bit of a throw in to the wind, the grief part, I suppose. I sold it all over time, and coupled with the money changed my set up.

Anyway, from then until now; my set up is now a 1618+ synology nas which acts as my ‘base’. I have a 2018 Mac mini i7 top spec with 32 gb ram (upgraded myself) and 10gbe, and I have a 2018 iPad Pro, 64gb (not enough! But it was an experiment- I’ll get 512gb at least next time). I also got an Apple TV to further segregate and create a ‘moduler’ environment.

I use the Mac as my lightroom classic backend. My main working files are on a Samsung eco pro ssd, everything else is on the nas.

I use my iPad to control the lot. At this point my mini is headless (VNC to get in, sidecar to operate - or using safari for my nas).

At home- everything is ingested via lightroom classic. I cull there, and put the ‘picks’ into a smart album which is reflected in Lightroom cc on my iPad. There I edit the smart previews, which are immediately reflected in classic. At this point, further edits are via photoshop on the Mac, using sidecar.

If I’m away; I also invested in adobe cloud- after speaking to them as a long time user, I got the 1 tb of cloud space for an extra £7 a month, on top of the sub I already pay. This means I can bypass the 64gb limit iPad disk by uploading raws directly to the cloud. This is not ideal- time consuming. Would rather I could use an ext ssd to house the library or better still, upload directly to my nas- but like I said. Experiment.

Still can use lightroom cc to edit, and better still- it still gets synced to classic on my Mac raws and all. The photoshop shortfall (until adobe pull their finger out with the iPad version) is solved by using affinity photo. It’s convoluted- but I rarely use it this way so I’ll cope.

This way I have a much ‘better’ editing laptop- with Mac OS almost as an app, with a powerful Mac mini as a backend.

I wish it was more complete, but it’s getting there.

I did use my monitors originally, but I found the work was as accurate for my usage as the iPad, so I’ll maybe sell them soon. I don’t use them.

There needs to be changes from Apple and also the devs of the apps- but for now i really feel like I’m in the future! It’s worthy of a look. I assure you. You just need a change of mentality with working with an iPad.
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Just to add- ALL other work and admin is achieve with the iPad alone. I use a Logitech keyboard and mouse (forget which) that have Bluetooth switching built in, so I just tap a key to swap between them both.

 

[ericwn]

Always happy to tell!

I used to work with a 2014 top spec 24gb ram 5k imac. I used a Wacom tablet, but just the cheap one. Bamboo or something. I used lightroom classic and photoshop.
At the beginning of last year I came into some money cos my mom died, only 5k, but I put it into my business as a photographer.

I had been reading about the ‘new’ 2018 iPad Pro and whilst I knew iPads before that- they’d always seemed redundant. Except for showing my portfolios, but hardly relevant.

With a bit of a leap, plus a pinch of forward thinking, I decided to use the money to change my workflow - a bit of a throw in to the wind, the grief part, I suppose. I sold it all over time, and coupled with the money changed my set up.

Anyway, from then until now; my set up is now a 1618+ synology nas which acts as my ‘base’. I have a 2018 Mac mini i7 top spec with 32 gb ram (upgraded myself) and 10gbe, and I have a 2018 iPad Pro, 64gb (not enough! But it was an experiment- I’ll get 512gb at least next time). I also got an Apple TV to further segregate and create a ‘moduler’ environment.

I use the Mac as my lightroom classic backend. My main working files are on a Samsung eco pro ssd, everything else is on the nas.

I use my iPad to control the lot. At this point my mini is headless (VNC to get in, sidecar to operate - or using safari for my nas).

At home- everything is ingested via lightroom classic. I cull there, and put the ‘picks’ into a smart album which is reflected in Lightroom cc on my iPad. There I edit the smart previews, which are immediately reflected in classic. At this point, further edits are via photoshop on the Mac, using sidecar.

If I’m away; I also invested in adobe cloud- after speaking to them as a long time user, I got the 1 tb of cloud space for an extra £7 a month, on top of the sub I already pay. This means I can bypass the 64gb limit iPad disk by uploading raws directly to the cloud. This is not ideal- time consuming. Would rather I could use an ext ssd to house the library or better still, upload directly to my nas- but like I said. Experiment.

Still can use lightroom cc to edit, and better still- it still gets synced to classic on my Mac raws and all. The photoshop shortfall (until adobe pull their finger out with the iPad version) is solved by using affinity photo. It’s convoluted- but I rarely use it this way so I’ll cope.

This way I have a much ‘better’ editing laptop- with Mac OS almost as an app, with a powerful Mac mini as a backend.

I wish it was more complete, but it’s getting there.

I did use my monitors originally, but I found the work was as accurate for my usage as the iPad, so I’ll maybe sell them soon. I don’t use them.

There needs to be changes from Apple and also the devs of the apps- but for now i really feel like I’m in the future! It’s worthy of a look. I assure you. You just need a change of mentality with working with an iPad.
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Just to add- ALL other work and admin is achieve with the iPad alone. I use a Logitech keyboard and mouse (forget which) that have Bluetooth switching built in, so I just tap a key to swap between them both.

Thanks much for taking the time - really appreciate it!

 

[richpjr]

Always happy to tell!

I used to work with a 2014 top spec 24gb ram 5k imac. I used a Wacom tablet, but just the cheap one. Bamboo or something. I used lightroom classic and photoshop.
At the beginning of last year I came into some money cos my mom died, only 5k, but I put it into my business as a photographer.

I had been reading about the ‘new’ 2018 iPad Pro and whilst I knew iPads before that- they’d always seemed redundant. Except for showing my portfolios, but hardly relevant.

With a bit of a leap, plus a pinch of forward thinking, I decided to use the money to change my workflow - a bit of a throw in to the wind, the grief part, I suppose. I sold it all over time, and coupled with the money changed my set up.

Anyway, from then until now; my set up is now a 1618+ synology nas which acts as my ‘base’. I have a 2018 Mac mini i7 top spec with 32 gb ram (upgraded myself) and 10gbe, and I have a 2018 iPad Pro, 64gb (not enough! But it was an experiment- I’ll get 512gb at least next time). I also got an Apple TV to further segregate and create a ‘moduler’ environment.

I use the Mac as my lightroom classic backend. My main working files are on a Samsung eco pro ssd, everything else is on the nas.

I use my iPad to control the lot. At this point my mini is headless (VNC to get in, sidecar to operate - or using safari for my nas).

At home- everything is ingested via lightroom classic. I cull there, and put the ‘picks’ into a smart album which is reflected in Lightroom cc on my iPad. There I edit the smart previews, which are immediately reflected in classic. At this point, further edits are via photoshop on the Mac, using sidecar.

If I’m away; I also invested in adobe cloud- after speaking to them as a long time user, I got the 1 tb of cloud space for an extra £7 a month, on top of the sub I already pay. This means I can bypass the 64gb limit iPad disk by uploading raws directly to the cloud. This is not ideal- time consuming. Would rather I could use an ext ssd to house the library or better still, upload directly to my nas- but like I said. Experiment.

Still can use lightroom cc to edit, and better still- it still gets synced to classic on my Mac raws and all. The photoshop shortfall (until adobe pull their finger out with the iPad version) is solved by using affinity photo. It’s convoluted- but I rarely use it this way so I’ll cope.

This way I have a much ‘better’ editing laptop- with Mac OS almost as an app, with a powerful Mac mini as a backend.

I wish it was more complete, but it’s getting there.

I did use my monitors originally, but I found the work was as accurate for my usage as the iPad, so I’ll maybe sell them soon. I don’t use them.

There needs to be changes from Apple and also the devs of the apps- but for now i really feel like I’m in the future! It’s worthy of a look. I assure you. You just need a change of mentality with working with an iPad.
[automerge]1591221239[/automerge]
Just to add- ALL other work and admin is achieve with the iPad alone. I use a Logitech keyboard and mouse (forget which) that have Bluetooth switching built in, so I just tap a key to swap between them both.

Thanks for sharing that. It's always interesting to see how other people's workflows are set up.

I have moved from using Photoshop and Lightroom Classic to an all cloud based Lightroom CC workflow. The majority of the time, I copy all my RAW images onto a Windows PC and (that is backed up to a NAS) before uploading everything to Creative Cloud via Lightroom. Occasionally I'll upload straight into Creative Cloud on my iPad if I am out and about and then copy to my PC/NAS later when convenient. This works fairly well and the convenience of being able to edit all my photos from anywhere is a huge bonus for me. Lightroom CC is still lacking features that Classic has that I work around, but I'm guessing (hoping?) that eventually it will be feature comparable.

I also have Affinity Photo for both the iPad and my PC, though honestly I don't use them that often. If Serif (or anyone else for that matter) ever came out with a DAM that worked well with Affinity Photo and ran my PC, MB Pro and iPad, I'd consider switching to it to save on the subscription. But I haven't found anything yet.

 

[cupcakes2000]

Thanks for sharing that. It's always interesting to see how other people's workflows are set up.

I have moved from using Photoshop and Lightroom Classic to an all cloud based Lightroom CC workflow. The majority of the time, I copy all my RAW images onto a Windows PC and (that is backed up to a NAS) before uploading everything to Creative Cloud via Lightroom. Occasionally I'll upload straight into Creative Cloud on my iPad if I am out and about and then copy to my PC/NAS later when convenient. This works fairly well and the convenience of being able to edit all my photos from anywhere is a huge bonus for me. Lightroom CC is still lacking features that Classic has that I work around, but I'm guessing (hoping?) that eventually it will be feature comparable.

I also have Affinity Photo for both the iPad and my PC, though honestly I don't use them that often. If Serif (or anyone else for that matter) ever came out with a DAM that worked well with Affinity Photo and ran my PC, MB Pro and iPad, I'd consider switching to it to save on the subscription. But I haven't found anything yet.

I agree with your thoughts on a DAM! Severely lacking for iOS.