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Jerry Bedilion

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I AM CLOSE TO A MELTDOWN. I'M A TEACHER TRYING TO USE MY IPENCIL TO GRADE PAPERS ONLINE WITH GOOGLE CLASSROOM/DRIVE. CAN I CONVERT, SAY, A PDF TO A FORMAT THAT WILL ALLOW ME TO DO THIS EASILY? THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY! I'M ALMOST OVER THE EDGE TRYING TO MANAGE ONLINE LEARNING FOR MY STUDENTS DURING THE PANDEMIC. THIS IS MY 48TH YEAR AS A CLASSROOM TEACHER, BUT I'M NOT AN OLD FART WHO'S AFRAID OF TECHNOLOGY! I EMBRACE IT, BUT I'M FRUSTRATED TRYING TO FIND HELP WITH THIS. GOOGLE WON'T HELP, MAC AGENT CAN'T HELP, PLEASE HELP!
 
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What tech do you have? iPad, Mac?

you can convert documents. The hack I use is use the share button, then press print. Convert to pdf. Then you can use this as a pdf an app. I use good notes. So transfer this to good notes Mark it up, then share it via email to your students for the grades.
 
I AM CLOSE TO A MELTDOWN. I'M A TEACHER TRYING TO USE MY IPENCIL TO GRADE PAPERS ONLINE WITH GOOGLE CLASSROOM/DRIVE. CAN I CONVERT, SAY, A PDF TO A FORMAT THAT WILL ALLOW ME TO DO THIS EASILY? THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY! I'M ALMOST OVER THE EDGE TRYING TO MANAGE ONLINE LEARNING FOR MY STUDENTS DURING THE PANDEMIC. THIS IS MY 48TH YEAR AS A CLASSROOM TEACHER, BUT I'M NOT AN OLD FART WHO'S AFRAID OF TECHNOLOGY! I EMBRACE IT, BUT I'M FRUSTRATED TRYING TO FIND HELP WITH THIS. GOOGLE WON'T HELP, MAC AGENT CAN'T HELP, PLEASE HELP!

Do you want to try an extension like Kami?


Alternatively, some of my colleagues are experimenting with a service called classkick. You will need to guide your students through creating a new account, but they can annotate on your worksheets, and you can even monitor their work in real time.

Chill and take a deep breath. We will be in this for the long haul, so pace yourself. We are all learning in this environment.
 
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Do you have a OneDrive account? If so, PDFs stored in your OneDrive account are easy to mark up. I just tap the name of the file, then tap the pen icon at the top, then tap the color I want to use, and mark up the document. Then I tap Done and the document is saved. Since it’s in OneDrive, it’s available on every device I have with OneDrive on it.
 
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Hopefully you will find a solution that works well for you using your current setup. Just in case you don’t find something easy, here are some screen shots of my grading. I was amazed at how easy it was. My students upload a PDF to their Moodle account. I download to OneDrive in the appropriate folder. I merge-print the rubrics to PDF and mark the rubric on my iPP 10.5 while marking their PDF on my iPP 11. After I’m done, I use Acrobat Pro on my desktop to insert the rubric at the beginning of their PDF, then upload the PDF back to them as a feedback file. I only have 14 students, so it’s not a burden.

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I just tried to work with a PDF that I uploaded to Google Drive. Apparently you have to send it to something, probably create a copy, and who knows what all else.

If there is any way to use OneDrive, even if you have to copy the files from Google Drive to OneDrive and copy the marked up files back to Google Drive, it is probably easier than dealing with anything directly on Google Drive. OneDrive is so darned simple to use for PDF markup on iPads. I’m thinking you can batch copy from GD to OD, do your markup on OD, and then batch copy back to GD.

(BTW, I just learned this recently. My previous experience with markup, several years ago, was challenging so I’d stayed with paper, but I was absolutely amazed at how easy it was in OneDrive when I was forced to go electronic.)
 
I use GoodReader for PDF markup. I use Dropbox for cloud storage and GoodReader allows me to sync a folder, annotate PDFs and then sync/upload changes back to Dropbox.

I don't know if GoodReader is capable of doing the same for Google Drive but I do know Google Drive is among the supported servers/protocol (Dropbox, OneDrive / SharePoint, Google Drive, SugarSync, box.com, WebDAV, FTP, AFP, SMB).
 
Saving the file over itself (rather than with a new name or to a different app or location) is NOT intuitive. You have to tap Done, Delete PDF. It does not affect your original Google Drive document. Apparently your changes are automatically saved.
 
Why not use the comments / revision features in G Docs instead of mark up?

Opening the document in Safari will automatically put it into comments / suggestion view so anything you write comes up as green. No need to export or share documents that way.
 
Hopefully you will find a solution that works well for you using your current setup. Just in case you don’t find something easy, here are some screen shots of my grading. I was amazed at how easy it was. My students upload a PDF to their Moodle account. I download to OneDrive in the appropriate folder. I merge-print the rubrics to PDF and mark the rubric on my iPP 10.5 while marking their PDF on my iPP 11. After I’m done, I use Acrobat Pro on my desktop to insert the rubric at the beginning of their PDF, then upload the PDF back to them as a feedback file. I only have 14 students, so it’s not a burden.

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Do you have a OneDrive account? If so, PDFs stored in your OneDrive account are easy to mark up. I just tap the name of the file, then tap the pen icon at the top, then tap the color I want to use, and mark up the document. Then I tap Done and the document is saved. Since it’s in OneDrive, it’s available on every device I have with OneDrive on it.
I'm confused. Is OneDrive a Google thing? If not, how do I get it to my Google Drive? I have to use Google Classroom and Drive at my school.
 
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Thank you much for your kindness and help.
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I'm confused. Is OneDrive a Google thing? If not, how do I get it to my Google Drive? I have to use Google Classroom and Drive at my school.

OneDrive is Microsoft. The university where I work has a contract with Microsoft for Office, Windows, and who knows what else. Included is OneDrive, which is cloud storage just like GoigleDrive, only from Microsoft.

if you have a OneDrive account and not a ton of students, you could copy their submissions to OneDrive, Mark them up, and copy them back.

I posted the steps for using GoogleDrive after seeing some basic instructions from someone else and figuring out the exact steps. Did you see those?
 
OneDrive is Microsoft. The university where I work has a contract with Microsoft for Office, Windows, and who knows what else. Included is OneDrive, which is cloud storage just like GoigleDrive, only from Microsoft.

if you have a OneDrive account and not a ton of students, you could copy their submissions to OneDrive, Mark them up, and copy them back.

I posted the steps for using GoogleDrive after seeing some basic instructions from someone else and figuring out the exact steps. Did you see those?
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Ha...I do have a ton of students, so I'm trying to perfect a way to mark their papers with my iPencil. I think I just may have it! Thank you for your kind support. Jerry
 
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