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omgitzmo

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The charger that came in the box is the Apple 18w charger, I decided not to use it because it'll get dirty fast and I want to cherish it lol.

Since it uses USB C I tried the new Samsung 25w charger that came with my dad's S20. It was pulling about a maximum of 18.5w so similar to the one that's in the box.

The lower part of my iPad Pro 2018 slightly warms up, after 80%, it slow charges so that's when it cools down. I know a little bit of heat won't degrade the battery that fast but for those who use the in box 18w charger, does your ipad Pro slightly heat up near the bottom? I've never tried the Apple one that's why I'm asking.
 

akash.nu

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The lower part of my iPad Pro 2018 slightly warms up, after 80%, it slow charges so that's when it cools down. I know a little bit of heat won't degrade the battery that fast but for those who use the in box 18w charger, does your ipad Pro slightly heat up near the bottom? I've never tried the Apple one that's why I'm asking.

Why don’t you just try it out for a couple of days and then put back in the box?
 
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omgitzmo

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Why don’t you just try it out for a couple of days and then put back in the box?

I'm a weird guy, I still have the plastic packaging on the cable and charging. Just waiting for someone to reply this is normal 😂😂
 

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The charger that came in the box is the Apple 18w charger, I decided not to use it because it'll get dirty fast and I want to cherish it lol.

Since it uses USB C I tried the new Samsung 25w charger that came with my dad's S20. It was pulling about a maximum of 18.5w so similar to the one that's in the box.

The lower part of my iPad Pro 2018 slightly warms up, after 80%, it slow charges so that's when it cools down. I know a little bit of heat won't degrade the battery that fast but for those who use the in box 18w charger, does your ipad Pro slightly heat up near the bottom? I've never tried the Apple one that's why I'm asking.
The original charger will probably provide less heat.
 

omgitzmo

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You are going to risk damaging the actual device to keep the charger in mint condition. That's beyond "weird".

How would using a genuine Samsung charger damage the device? I assume it uses power delivery standard since its around 18w, it doesn't heat up extremely, maybe heats upto max of 30 degrees like when watching netflix. Just to reiterate, its not a chinese charger i got from ebay or amazon, it came with a Samsung phone. I'm curious as to why it would damage the actual device?
 

omgitzmo

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They why does this thread exist if you have no doubts?

I do have some doubts, I'm just curious as to why it would damage my ipad. I'm curious and looking for advice, didnt mean to hurt your feelings haha
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They why does this thread exist if you have no doubts? If you were confident that the Samsung and Apple chargers would perform the same then it wouldn't.

Is it because of the heat? Etc things like that, I'm curious
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I was hoping after few hours of posting this, someone who uses the in-box would reply and mention if theirs heat up slightly, anyone?
 

brentsg

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I do have some doubts, I'm just curious as to why it would damage my ipad. I'm curious and looking for advice, didnt mean to hurt your feelings haha
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Is it because of the heat? Etc things like that, I'm curious

My feelings aren't hurt. I do not have an answer to your original question but there's no doubt that that you move from zero risk to some risk when you begin to use chargers that weren't specifically designed for the device. I just think it's odd to risk the very expensive device to preserve the very inexpensive device.

When I charge my wife's iPad with a multi-charger there's a lot of coil whine from the charger. It's almost certainly fine and I'm willing to take the small risk in order to avoid having 4 chargers on my kitchen cabinet. I would not be willing to take the risk in order to keep the original charger mint condition. That's all I'm getting at.
 

omgitzmo

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My feelings aren't hurt. I do not have an answer to your original question but there's no doubt that that you move from zero risk to some risk when you begin to use chargers that weren't specifically designed for the device. I just think it's odd to risk the very expensive device to preserve the very inexpensive device.

Yeah good shout. I'll just replace the cable if it degrades over time rather than the entire ipad lol
 

omgitzmo

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I've been using Apple & multiple 3rd party chargers - including Samsung - interchangeably for years with my iPads and other devices without a problem.

Yeah I would assume it'll be fine. I've been using an iPhone charger to slowly overnight charge my Samsung phone and the battery is still good 👍
 

BugeyeSTI

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Your iPad can only take 18w maximum no matter how much the charger puts out. I know people who charge their iPad using the 30w or 61w Apple usb-c bricks from their laptops with no issues
 
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rdy0329

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If your charger uses PD standard, then yes it charges the same. iPads can be charged with up to 30W max input And heat is very normal Esp for 18 and 30w. It’s wise to use the included charger at least once so you can compare the two heat-wise But I’m willing to bet it’s about the same.
 
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rui no onna

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Your iPad can only take 18w maximum no matter how much the charger puts out. I know people who charge their iPad using the 30w or 61w Apple usb-c bricks from their laptops with no issues
I would assume the 2018 iPad Pros will go up to 30W.

I measured power consumption on our iPads with Apple 30W USB-PD charger and iirc, the draw was:

15W
iPad 10.2"

30W
iPad Pro 10.5" (2017)
iPad Pro 12.9" (2017)
iPad Air 3 (2019)

I was measuring power draw from the wall so my measurements were actually higher due to adapter efficiency.
 
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BugeyeSTI

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I would assume the 2018 iPad Pros will go up to 30W.

I measured power consumption on our iPads and iirc, the draw was:

15W
iPad 10.2"

30W
iPad Pro 10.5" (2017)
iPad Pro 12.9" (2017)
iPad Air 3 (2019)

I was measuring power draw from the wall so my measurements were actually higher due to adapter efficiency.
Wow! I had no clue the iPads could charge at that rate.. Figures Apple doesn't include a 30w charger with them even though they're available
 

RevTEG

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Wow! I had no clue the iPads could charge at that rate.. Figures Apple doesn't include a 30w charger with them even though they're available

The IPad Pro’s do fast charge at a higher rate. That’s why Apple recommends their 30w for them. The reason they’re not included is so we have a reason to buy more products. Smart move...
 

Fat.tofu

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Compares charging time between Apple 12w (non pd), stock 18w and mbp 61w charger
iPad Pro peaks at 35w.


Teardown of stock iPad 18w charger. Premium quality component inside. Some say a bit overkill for what it does.

Personally i only use apple branded charger for piece of mind.
 
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Fat.tofu

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Yeah I would assume it'll be fine. I've been using an iPhone charger to slowly overnight charge my Samsung phone and the battery is still good 👍

That samsung charger should be fine it support 9v PD up to 2.77a (25w)

this one i assume
 
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Devyn89

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It’s normal to heat up while charging. Typically it will as some of the heat dissipates though the exterior of the device.
 
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