Using Yahoo for GMail Push?

[tbm248]

Hi everyone. I saw many people have mentioned forwarding their gmail to a yahoo account, and then turning on "PUSH" for the yahoo mail, which will basically be push for gmail.

But I have a couple questions --

1. How much will this drain the battery? One thing that I liked about the concept of the gpush app was push notifications. It supposedly would give you a notification of when you got a new email, who it was from, etc. and you could choose to open up the mail app to load the email, or ignore it. I read that this notification process hardly had any effect on the battery at all (unless you open up mail everytime you are notified, obviously). Does the same hold true for this gmail to yahoo forwarding for push? Or, does this automatically load up the email, thus, draining battery?

2. Is there any way to do it so it's just notifications, and not actually loading up the mail everytime it comes in?

TIA!

 

[esadb]

1) yes, apparantly push uses less than fetch battery wise

2) thats what push is you get a pop up like you do when you get a text message, if you want to read it then you go open mail app and read the email.

i signed up for rocketmail.com (yahoo) this morning and seeing how that push would work and well i didnt get an notification and i had an email in there for 30min+ i tried it a few times, rebooting my phone and all.

So i dont know what to take from this yahoo push thing but i guess it didnt work for me..

 

[TLewis]

i signed up for rocketmail.com (yahoo) this morning and seeing how that push would work and well i didnt get an notification and i had an email in there for 30min+ i tried it a few times, rebooting my phone and all.

With Yahoo mail, it seems that push doesn't start working right away. Give it a couple hours or maybe a day, and try again. Once it does start to work, push can take anywhere from seconds to minutes, and it has been known to sometimes take a lot longer. I haven't used Yahoo push in a while, but a "few minutes" was average for me.

 

[TLewis]

1) yes, apparantly push uses less than fetch battery wise

Forgot to mention that, if you get a lot of pushed emails, it may eat more battery. To prevent this, you might want to use gmail filters to limit the pushed email messages to only the important/urgent ones.

 

[daihard]

Hi everyone. I saw many people have mentioned forwarding their gmail to a yahoo account, and then turning on "PUSH" for the yahoo mail, which will basically be push for gmail.

But I have a couple questions --

1. How much will this drain the battery? One thing that I liked about the concept of the gpush app was push notifications. It supposedly would give you a notification of when you got a new email, who it was from, etc. and you could choose to open up the mail app to load the email, or ignore it. I read that this notification process hardly had any effect on the battery at all (unless you open up mail everytime you are notified, obviously). Does the same hold true for this gmail to yahoo forwarding for push? Or, does this automatically load up the email, thus, draining battery?

I am not technically savvy when it comes to the push technology, but I understand that the push feature available for Yahoo! (and MobileMe) consumes a lot less battery than the fetch feature. From what I read, Yahoo! Mail uses a special SMS message to trigger mail synchronization, which means it should be invoked only when you get mail on the server instead of every 15 or 30 or 60 minutes.

I myself forward Gmail to Yahoo! for push (and shall continue to do so until GPush gets stable enough). So far, Yahoo! push has been very reliable for me.

 

[tbm248]

Thanks for the replies, everyone.

I'm still a bit confused, because I'm also not very tech savvy!

Although it may be less draining than fetch, is it comparable to how gpush does it? I'm just a bit confused as to how emails are handled with this gmail to yahoo forwarding. I would like the option of going into the mail app only if I think the email is important or worth loading, and that would be based on the little blurb/notification I would get from the yahoo push. Is that how it works?

Also, I have yahoo messenger app installed on my phone. Would there be a way to do what I want using that? i.e. the push notification, but not the actual email loading up automatically?

 

[daihard]

Thanks for the replies, everyone.

I'm still a bit confused, because I'm also not very tech savvy!

Although it may be less draining than fetch, is it comparable to how gpush does it? I'm just a bit confused as to how emails are handled with this gmail to yahoo forwarding. I would like the option of going into the mail app only if I think the email is important or worth loading, and that would be based on the little blurb/notification I would get from the yahoo push. Is that how it works?

No, Yahoo! and GPush handle mail quite differently. When Yahoo! gets new mail, it will be pushed (i.e. downloaded) onto your iPhone. That's how the Mail app gives you the badge telling you how many messages you have. OTOH, when Gmail gets new mail, GPush will simply notify the iPhone that you've got mail and display the header of your latest mail message, without pushing the actual mail on the iPhone. In that case you will need to open the Mail app in order to get the actual mail.

Hope it's clearer now.

 

[tbm248]

No, Yahoo! and GPush handle mail quite differently. When Yahoo! gets new mail, it will be pushed (i.e. downloaded) onto your iPhone. That's how the Mail app gives you the badge telling you how many messages you have. OTOH, when Gmail gets new mail, GPush will simply notify the iPhone that you've got mail and display the header of your latest mail message, without pushing the actual mail on the iPhone. In that case you will need to open the Mail app in order to get the actual mail.

Hope it's clearer now.

Thanks! Yup, that made sense to me.

That's why I like the way gpush does it (if it ever works that is lol), as I could decide if I want to open or have the email downloaded onto the phone at that time. I imagine that's a lot better for battery than the way yahoo does it, which downloads all the emails as they come in.

So, I'm guessing there is no way to set it up like gpush? With yahoo messenger, or any other workaround?

 

[TLewis]

So, I'm guessing there is no way to set it up like gpush? With yahoo messenger, or any other workaround?

If you use gmail filters to only push "important" messages, the battery life shouldn't be a problem (unless you still end up pushing a lot of email).

 

[esadb]

With Yahoo mail, it seems that push doesn't start working right away. Give it a couple hours or maybe a day, and try again. Once it does start to work, push can take anywhere from seconds to minutes, and it has been known to sometimes take a lot longer. I haven't used Yahoo push in a while, but a "few minutes" was average for me.

why does it take so long to start working? I signed up earlier today and still nothing..

 

[iphones4evry1]

Wait. Are you guys saying that I can get my Yahoo mail pushed to me even if I'm not signed up for MobileMe? Do I need to use a Yahoo App, or does it work with just the regular Mail App that comes on the iPhone? So if I go into settings and turn push on, it will work? (someone said there is a two hour delay after you set it up, otherwise, I would have just tested it myself instead of posting this) Thanks.

 

[esadb]

Wait. Are you guys saying that I can get my Yahoo mail pushed to me even if I'm not signed up for MobileMe? Do I need to use a Yahoo App, or does it work with just the regular Mail App that comes on the iPhone? So if I go into settings and turn push on, it will work? (someone said there is a two hour delay after you set it up, otherwise, I would have just tested it myself instead of posting this) Thanks.

Yah you can dude, just make a yahoo account, then forward a copy of gmails email to yahoo and you will get push. And it works straight with the Mail App.

The delay to test it is more than 2hours, ive been now waiting or 8+hours and still no push notification

 

[iphones4evry1]

Yah you can dude, just make a yahoo account, then forward a copy of gmails email to yahoo and you will get push. And it works straight with the Mail App.

The delay to test it is more than 2hours, ive been now waiting or 8+hours and still no push notification

Thanks. I'll give it a try.

 

[TLewis]

why does it take so long to start working? I signed up earlier today and still nothing..

I have no idea. When I signed up (months ago), it took something like 2+ hours before it started working. Like you, I was pretty annoyed that it wasn't working right away. I've seen other people with similar cases, but I don't know how common an issue this is, if it's common at all.

 

[iphones4evry1]

I have three email accounts setup on my phone's Mail App. Is there a way to have push turned on for one of the accounts but turned off for the other two? Thanks.

If this is not an option, Apple seriously needs to add this option for the 3.1 Update.