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modyouup

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So if you have one of these stupid protected AACs, you are limited to what you can do with them.

The solution is to not even deal with converting the file at all, but rather, the sound. Download Audio Hijack (address below) which records sound from any app that outputs sound into AIFF format. From there you can convert that to whatever you see fit.

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/16382

Have fun! :)
 
AIFF format is usually a bit better than AAC, so you won't be "converting up." I don't think people are that hung up on having 3 machines to use their songs - even with this software program, you are still paying for the song. That means that you are doing an awful lot of work each time you want to download a new tune.
 
Well if someone was really hell bent on burning more than 10 songs on a playlist, they could do this.
 
Originally posted by modyouup
Well if someone was really hell bent on burning more than 10 songs on a playlist, they could do this.

i think you misunderstood what steve said...

the protection is that you can't burn a playlist 10 times in a row without changing what's in it...meaning you can't just go and make 20 copies of the same playlist
 
Hahahahaha, didn't realize I typed that. I meant burning more than 10 times without changing anything.
 
Re: Very simple way around protected AACs

Originally posted by modyouup
So if you have one of these stupid protected AACs, you are limited to what you can do with them.

The solution is to not even deal with converting the file at all, but rather, the sound. Download Audio Hijack (address below) which records sound from any app that outputs sound into AIFF format. From there you can convert that to whatever you see fit.

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/16382

Have fun! :)

I think you are carried away here - you can burn the AAC in audio format to a CD (very close to CD quality), and then re-import in AAC (near CD quality). It's not exactly a restricting DRM.
 
there is a simple way around it...

for those that don't want good quality. I know that the majority out there have trouble distinguishing from cd audio, but a lot can tell a difference. Now I haven't tried this with AAC but with mp3 if you convert your mp3's to wav of aiff and then convert them back, the quality is horrible. I am assuming the same with AAC. mp3 and AAC both lose data when converting. You could burn it then import it back to AAC but the quality will not be there.
 
Re-Ripping not ideal

Actually ripping an audio CD that was made with AAC files is something that Apple has mentioned already. Apparently the 2nd generation rip will not sound good. The Audio Hijack method would yield better results but the question remains, why would anyone burn more than ten copies of one album? Most people need two copies of a CD at most for their own personal use (car & home) and maybe a few for friends or family. Generally speaking, anyone who would make more than ten CDs is most likely dabbling in piracy.

Anyway, the Apple Music Store is great fun to browse through. Kind of like having a music store in my computer.
 
Someone posted on /. that you can save the file in Quicktime as a self-contained movie and the DRM will go away.

Shouldn't be any change in quality. Someone with iTunes 4, a purchased song, and quicktime could verify this for me...
 
My need for getting the songs to a different format (mp3) is that so I can burn the mp3s onto a cd which my car stereo reards.

I guess it'll just be a hassle to burn to a CD then rip to mp3, but it's the best solution I've got at the moment.
 
It doesn't matter anyway -
The downloads from Apple don't have the capability of being 320K 16bit 44kHz....so if you rip the standard AAC to something else, you aren't going to gain any quality over the standard download. It is a lot of work to do all that for an entire library.
 
You can save as .mov to elminate the protection, and then you can play it on unlimited macs with quicktime 6.2, but PCs still cant play it.
 
I don't understand why people are trying to get around the digital rights. There are a lot of similar ways around the DRM, as discussed in other threads.

As for the audiophiles, fidelity is the key, but I much guess that most audiophiles will pay for the better quality- i.e. CD or vinyl (strange but some think vinyl is better).

I spend 8 hours a day dealing with sound files of various kinds. When I get home, I just want to enjoy my music. As noted below and on another thread, decoding and recording (resampleing) a sound file does not improve its quality. What's lost is lost.

As for changing the extensions- Careful, some players may get confused- at least in the PC world. Mac's don't need the extension, at least that's my understanding. Why can't I decode and work with .mov files on a PC? I am looknig at Vegas and QT- I have access to both. What would block me?
 
i dont know if its just me, but using audio hijack would more trouble than its worth for many songs. there will be easier ways. im still wondering if i can burn it, and extract it from a windows machine or a itunes 3. although i dont plan on doing this, i think apple is being very fair with this, and i bet if they had it their way you would buy it and that would be that, they had to do this to get the music people to sign on.

iJon
 
Originally posted by Eniregnat

As for changing the extensions- Careful, some players may get confused- at least in the PC world. Mac's don't need the extension, at least that's my understanding. Why can't I decode and work with .mov files on a PC? I am looknig at Vegas and QT- I have access to both. What would block me?

My understanding is that apple is using a slightly modified AAC format, even when it is decoded or saved into a .mov. I'm not sure though, I could be wrong (very likely in fact)
 
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