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ericwn

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Oh how I like folks who cannot ask a question but just throw in a link to some video and then have everyone discuss.

I buy my tools when I need them. I prefer bigger screen iPads.
 

Soba1

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Oh how I like folks who cannot ask a question but just throw in a link to some video and then have everyone discuss.

I buy my tools when I need them. I prefer bigger screen iPads.
I have the IPad 12.9” second gen. So I am due for an upgrade. I had the Air 4th gen. I missed the screen size and the keyboard layout. I was just passing this along as an FYI. If the new one hits in March I will jump on it.
If not I we’ll decide whether or not I want to wait
 

ericwn

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I have the IPad 12.9” second gen. So I am due for an upgrade. I had the Air 4th gen. I missed the screen size and the keyboard layout. I was just passing this along as an FYI. If the new one hits in March I will jump on it.
If not I we’ll decide whether or not I want to wait

I like big screen iPads too but am not sure how owning the second generation makes you “due” for an upgrade. A new iPad Pro does the exact same thing. Might come in a metal shell with a different colour or look and render a video maybe a bit quicker, but iPads are not going to be dramatically different.
 

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I like big screen iPads too but am not sure how owning the second generation makes you “due” for an upgrade. A new iPad Pro does the exact same thing. Might come in a metal shell with a different colour or look and render a video maybe a bit quicker, but iPads are not going to be dramatically different.

It's worth it for a lot of reasons for example if you are an enthusiast and want to always min-max on tech , if you are a power user aswell.

For me personally the biggest factor is getting the latest tech and selling my previous one at a great price that way I can go buying the latest stuff each gen with a very minimal investment while always having the newest toy. Apple maintains it's price better then any other product on in this market but after 2-3 GENS it will depreciate quite a bit.
 

ericwn

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It's worth it for a lot of reasons for example if you are an enthusiast and want to always min-max on tech , if you are a power user aswell.

For me personally the biggest factor is getting the latest tech and selling my previous one at a great price that way I can go buying the latest stuff each gen with a very minimal investment while always having the newest toy. Apple maintains it's price better then any other product on in this market but after 2-3 GENS it will depreciate quite a bit.

Sorry but having interest in technology doesn’t mean having to own everything. It serves as a purpose for that action but to me that’s just hollow consumerism. I am a power user and know my tools. I don’t benefit from always having the latest and hardly anyone does.
 
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Digitalguy

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Sorry but having interest in technology doesn’t mean having to own everything. It serves as a purpose for that action but to me that’s just hollow consumerism. I am a power user and know my tools. I don’t benefit from always having the latest and hardly anyone does.
Agree with this. Personally I upgrade only if something gives me some tangible added value or solved some annoying issue. That's why I am still with my 1st gen pro 12.9 which is still great.
I moved from the 10.5 to the 11 pro mainly because of USB C. I want to progressively leave anything that doesn't have USB C behind, especially when I travel.. I think that my 2018 11 pro can be my main iPad for the next 5 to 10 years
 

off3nc3

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Sorry but having interest in technology doesn’t mean having to own everything. It serves as a purpose for that action but to me that’s just hollow consumerism. I am a power user and know my tools. I don’t benefit from always having the latest and hardly anyone does.
If I can get the best new tech with a minimal investment yearly I'm going to take it , you can sit on the sidelines and use the old gens as long as you wish. Not everyone has to min-max tech :)
 
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rui no onna

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Sorry but having interest in technology doesn’t mean having to own everything. It serves as a purpose for that action but to me that’s just hollow consumerism. I am a power user and know my tools. I don’t benefit from always having the latest and hardly anyone does.

True. However, the cumulative changes and improvements to both hardware and software, as well as changes in usage over the past 3+ years could mean upgrading is more useful now.

I've spent the equivalent of several years of iPhone and iPad upgrades for trips to Disneyland/Walt Disney World, etc. While the experience was fun (albeit pretty stressful as well), I get far more lasting enjoyment and utility from my tech purchases.

If you're willing to deal with the hassle of reselling and don't get the higher configs (e.g. top storage + cellular), depreciation isn't as bad and resale would offset a large portion of the cost to upgrade to a new model.
 

ericwn

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True. However, the cumulative changes and improvements to both hardware and software, as well as changes in usage over the past 3+ years could mean upgrading is more useful now.

I've spent the equivalent of several years of iPhone and iPad upgrades for trips to Disneyland/Walt Disney World, etc. While the experience was fun (albeit pretty stressful as well), I get far more lasting enjoyment and utility from my tech purchases.

If you're willing to deal with the hassle of reselling and don't get the higher configs (e.g. top storage + cellular), depreciation isn't as bad and resale would offset a large portion of the cost to upgrade to a new model.

Hey I have no problem if you do your consumerism in a way that is easy on your bank account. Totally fine.

I get the tools I need and replace them when I need too.
 

rui no onna

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Hey I have no problem if you do your consumerism in a way that is easy on your bank account. Totally fine.

I get the tools I need and replace them when I need too.

Lol, I don't actually bother reselling. I pass it down to family. Lately though, I've been keeping old iPads either to run older firmware/legacy apps or to be used for beta testing.

At least for me, tech is both a tool and a hobby. Computers and smartphones, I don't use that much ever since I got the iPad Pro so I keep them a long time and replace when absolutely needed. I just replaced 8-10 year old Windows 7 PCs last year as well as iPhone 7 with bad battery to SE 2020.

I use iPads a lot though (12+ hours a day) so I was more frivolous with those doing yearly upgrades. I budgeted $100/month or $1200/year for iPads. I figure that was a fair price for something I enjoyed using a lot considering dining out and going to the movies cost more per month. For me, tech tends to fall more under enterntainment expense rather than capital expenditure.

I hit my limit in 2018 though when prices for top config jumped to $2000-2250 with AppleCare+ and tax, before accessories. That put the brakes on my annual upgrades. ?
 
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Yeah for me I've been sitting on the Gen 2 12.9 just riding it out until a newer generation comes along that contains workflow differentiating features that impact me directly. Thus far having the newer form factor, newer pencil, USB-C, performance bump and camera upgrades still aren't enough. They're there sure, but I'd have to spend $1560 for a comparable current model with pencil and keyboard and would likely only recoup $600 of that if I sold my old setup. That's a ton of money to switch to a new iPad Pro device that really isn't going to improve my workflows at the moment. I primarily play in a narrow field on this thing (browsing, content consumption, light email, note taking, minor PDF markup) so it's just not a cost effective situation. We're all different.
 

rui no onna

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Yeah for me I've been sitting on the Gen 2 12.9 just riding it out until a newer generation comes along that contains workflow differentiating features that impact me directly. Thus far having the newer form factor, newer pencil, USB-C, performance bump and camera upgrades still aren't enough. They're there sure, but I'd have to spend $1560 for a comparable current model with pencil and keyboard and would likely only recoup $600 of that if I sold my old setup. That's a ton of money to switch to a new iPad Pro device that really isn't going to improve my workflows at the moment. I primarily play in a narrow field on this thing (browsing, content consumption, light email, note taking, minor PDF markup) so it's just not a cost effective situation. We're all different.

The introduction of mouse support has meant FaceID is more convenient now (solo office so no mask).

Also, I want to be able to use the same Logitech Crayon I've been using on the iPad 7th gen and Air 3 on the 12.9" iPad. The battery on my AP1 always seems to be empty whenever I want to use it.

It costs a lot but since I've been saving money not going on vacations or dining out anyway, it doesn't seem so bad anymore (especially if I keep it 3-4 years like I've done with the 2nd gen).
 
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