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SuperKRad

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jun 1, 2007
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Not looking to start a flame war, just need some advice on how to do this.

Trying to make the entire partition Vista only - in other words, want to make the entire disk NTFS with no trace of OS X anywhere.

Can this be done, and how?
 

Eidorian

macrumors Penryn
Mar 23, 2005
29,190
386
Indianapolis
You should be able to wipe the Unknown Partition (a.k.a. HFS+ and some other space) and then format them to NTFS using Disk Management.

Merging them space is another thing entirely.

If you're installing Windows the first time just delete all the partitions and do what you want with them.
 

speakerwizard

macrumors 68000
Aug 8, 2006
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London
its not advised, just make your mac os install as small as possible (no drivers / languages etc) and partition the rest for vista, microsoft doesnt support efi so its best to keep macos around incase ya need bootcamp utility, anyone else feel free to correct me on this though
 

SuperKRad

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jun 1, 2007
12
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So essentially if I buy a brand new iMac at the store, I can open it, pop in a Vista install disk, format the entire thing to NTFS and Im good?

Also, using Boot Camp, whats the maximum partition size you can set for Windows? Or I guess I should say, the minimum you can set for OS X?

Thanks for the quick response.
 

Eidorian

macrumors Penryn
Mar 23, 2005
29,190
386
Indianapolis
its not advised, just make your mac os install as small as possible (no drivers / languages etc) and partition the rest for vista, microsoft doesnt support efi so its best to keep macos around incase ya need bootcamp utility, anyone else feel free to correct me on this though
1. BIOS emulation will be used by the firmware (as it already is...)
2. Vista x64 variants do support EFI.

So essentially if I buy a brand new iMac at the store, I can open it, pop in a Vista install disk, format the entire thing to NTFS and Im good?

Also, using Boot Camp, whats the maximum partition size you can set for Windows? Or I guess I should say, the minimum you can set for OS X?

Thanks for the quick response.
I suggest installing Boot Camp first and making sure the Mac runs 10.4.6 at least first. OS X stock only needs 1.9 GB. (Tiger on Intel) You'll need a little more space them that. (5-10 GB)
 

Osarkon

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Aug 30, 2006
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You should be able to wipe the Unknown Partition (a.k.a. HFS+ and some other space) and then format them to NTFS using Disk Management.

Merging them space is another thing entirely.

If you're installing Windows the first time just delete all the partitions and do what you want with them.

Vista's Disk Management can merge and expand partitions on the fly, so that shouldn't be a problem.
 

Willis

macrumors 68020
Apr 23, 2006
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as others had said, keep around 7-10GB of free space for OS X, because any bootcamp updates which help run windows better are pretty much a nice touch. And again, for the all important warrenty
 

SuperKRad

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jun 1, 2007
12
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as others had said, keep around 7-10GB of free space for OS X, because any bootcamp updates which help run windows better are pretty much a nice touch. And again, for the all important warrenty

If I use Boot Camp to make a very large Vista partition, are there any limitations as far as file size and NTFS?
 

M@lew

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Nov 18, 2006
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I don't know if I'd completely format the computer though. When Leopard comes out, Boot Camp won't be supported on Tiger...so if something happens and you need to get back to OSX, you'd need to format all your data.
 

v-ault

macrumors regular
Dec 20, 2006
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Lol, this guy is just buying an Imac for the look of it. You should give the mac os a try.
 

AutumnSkyline

macrumors regular
Oct 5, 2006
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Lol, this guy is just buying an Imac for the look of it. You should give the mac os a try.

Agreed, at least take some time out your surely busy schedule and learn the OS, frankly, it took me a day to get used to going to the left instead of the right for the X - + and everything else, you should be fine, and you will probably like it better than vista.
 

ghall

macrumors 68040
Jun 27, 2006
3,771
1
Rhode Island
No offense, but why buy a Mac if your just going to use Windows? Macs were designed to run Mac OS as the primary OS. You should at least give Mac OS X a try, you might end up liking it. And if you need Windows, you cal always do half and half or something. I'm sorry if I wasn't very helpful, it's just hard for me to understand your reasoning here.
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
25,370
8,952
a better place
His choice either way. Your mac, do what you like. For a lot of windows users Mac OS is not the godsend we see it to be. I once convinced a windows user to go mac, but she hated it and could not adapt, in the end - I ended up buying the mac off her, so she could buy herself a dell - she's happy which is the main thing.


The only thing about Vista i've found is that it makes my MBP run very very hot. Its like it doesnt control the fans properly or somthing.
 

elppa

macrumors 68040
Nov 26, 2003
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Just to echo what others say, this is a really bad idea. I'd think long and hard about whether for the sake of a few GB you want to completely get rid of Mac OS X.

Use Vista as your primary OS if need be, but it's worth keeping the Mac partition for many of the reasons pointed out above.
 

AdeFowler

macrumors 68020
Aug 27, 2004
2,319
362
England
Not looking to start a flame war, just need some advice on how to do this.

Trying to make the entire partition Vista only - in other words, want to make the entire disk NTFS with no trace of OS X anywhere.

Can this be done, and how?
Go and sit on the naughty step now! ;)
 

gnasher729

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Nov 25, 2005
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No offense, but why buy a Mac if your just going to use Windows?

If I ever had the intention of buying a computer to use with Vista :mad: I would surely look at buying a Mac. MacMini, MacBook, iMac and the eight core MacPros are definitely competitive with anything in the PC market.

(What's wrong with that statement? Buying a Macintosh is very often a sign of _taste_. Buying Vista is a sign of having no taste at all. Vista on a Macintosh is like putting lipstick (Vista) on a pig (Windows) and sticking it into an Armani suit (Macintosh). )
 

siurpeeman

macrumors 603
Dec 2, 2006
6,321
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If I ever had the intention of buying a computer to use with Vista :mad: I would surely look at buying a Mac. MacMini, MacBook, iMac and the eight core MacPros are definitely competitive with anything in the PC market.

(What's wrong with that statement? Buying a Macintosh is very often a sign of _taste_. Buying Vista is a sign of having no taste at all. Vista on a Macintosh is like putting lipstick (Vista) on a pig (Windows) and sticking it into an Armani suit (Macintosh). )

this is what my horoscope read for the day. scary.

to the op, what's so bad about mac os x? i'm just curious.
 

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Glen Quagmire

macrumors 6502a
Jan 6, 2006
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What's the point? Surely most people buy a Mac because of the OS and the software, not because it's pretty? Why not just buy a Dell?

It's like buying a Ferrari and leaving it in first gear all the time. Strange.
 

OldSkoolNJ

macrumors 6502
Jul 10, 2006
381
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What's the point? Surely most people buy a Mac because of the OS and the software, not because it's pretty? Why not just buy a Dell?

It's like buying a Ferrari and leaving it in first gear all the time. Strange.

NO that would mean it can run. This would be more like buying a Ferrari and driving it in forst gear with boots on three out of four wheels. ;)

*flash back to the simpsons where Homer drove his wagon with the boot on it* lol

Kevin :apple:
 

androvboy

macrumors member
May 16, 2006
52
36
C'mon guys. I have a MacBook Pro 17. Had it for 12 months now. I purchased because the hardware reliability is excellent on all the reviews, and I wanted strong reliable kit.

I love the hardware, but cannot get on with Mac OS. I only boot into the MAC OS for bootcamp upgrades.

Steve Jobs got most of my cash and Bill Gates got a little bit. I have too many Windows programmes that I cannot be bothered to track down in Apple format and because I work on website development it is more important that I spot possible errors instantly for the 95% of website viewers that are using Explorer.

It does you guys no favours to always moan on about MAC OS is better, especially in this part of the forum. Thou doth protest too much.
 
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