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Voice unlock, interesting
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having to speak to it hundreds of times a day, many times on places where you wouldn't? I fail to see what the benefit of it would be.
Where are the metrics stating the likelihood that someone else could unlock your phone if they know your voice password? (you WILL be overheard using it).
I'm not saying using "voice print" technology isn't possible - but we need to know to what level this has been done so it can be compared against other biometric security protection mechanisms others have implemented.
Heh...and anyone that knows that you do this could simply record you doing so, so they can unlock your phone without you being present.
Fail.
I'm not saying using "voice print" technology isn't possible - but we need to know to what level this has been done so it can be compared against other biometric security protection mechanisms others have implemented.
Heh...and anyone that knows that you do this could simply record you doing so, so they can unlock your phone without you being present.
Fail.
Wouldn't really call this a fail honestly... At the end of the day, its another option. This obviously isn't the default nor the ONLY authentication method. Not everyone feels like they are on the radar, and need to be constantly changing forms of user authentication. For someone who is busy with their hands, and want's to unlock their phone from across the room, can do this. And it just so happens they can continue to talk to their phone to make calls, send texts, open apps, play songs, etc, with Google Assistant. Pretty sure someone isn't going to use their vocal password out in public, or around people who may *try* to access their phone. They may use their fingerprint in times with people around, and use voice when they are alone at home. So remind me how is this a fail again?
Would be great in a meeting or while somebody is doing a presentation. The cinema too I must add.
When it comes to security, you often need to protect the users against themselves (hence why many services force you to create a strong password).
People will use this in instances that they can be overheard. If this isn't doing heuristics on their voice, but just dictation stating a password, then their phone could be easily compromised.
Part of the reason that Apple is able to easily get the Banks to sign off on Face ID is that the odds in someone else being able to unlock your phone is extremely remote (identical twins, siblings, etc) - it's actually more secure that Touch ID. There need to be base metrics that a security mechanism has to meet in order to protect the users wallet and identity.
Again, this obviously isn't a really secure unlocking method, nor is it meant to be. This isn't meant to be used instead of fingerprint sensor. Android's aren't limited like Apple when it comes to unlocking a device. If one needs stronger security, they can use fingerprint or strong password/passcode. If they aren't as worried about data, they can use voice, swipe, location based unlocking, etc. For Banks, you obviously would need to fall back to a fingerprint or password. Speaking of Banks, there are still some that won't use Apple's Face ID because it's not been proven yet. Know what that means? iPhone X won't work with every bank.
Heh. Well, not where I live.
Not sure who needs to "prove" the metrics Apple has claimed for Face ID. You have any links to articles on the banks that haven't approved of Face ID yet (that are already supporting Apple Pay)?
There were users on this very site that were complaining how their bank disabled bio-metrics as a whole because face ID wasn't proven. And ANY system of user authentication NEEDS to be proven before releasing to the public. Especially when it comes to banking.Heh. Well, not where I live.
Edit:
A couple of users are listed below via quick search of the forums
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ispatch-thread.2065306/page-487#post-25403234
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ial-app-face-id-status.2086592/#post-25429285
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/barclays-uk-banking-app-not-working-with-face-id.2084549/
Yep, and I figured it was going to be a big clusterf--k because Apple likely didn't have those negotiations in advance. Well, I'm guessing that they did - at least here we've seen no backlash by our banks whatsoever - and they certainly would have if that communication hadn't taken place.
I'll go looking for these complaints...hadn't seen any in the iPhone or iOS forums.
Thanks....
Found this one...(it was pretty pointless...one bank app that didn't support it, but two pages into the thread it now did). Just a lot of worry and conjecture, but no actual proof on this one: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/face-id-not-optimised-for-banking-app.2081759/
[doublepost=1510879401][/doublepost]Ok, so reviewed those threads. All of the UK banking apps appear to be working. Only ones that weren't working that were reported was the Amazon app and Olivia23 said that their US banking app wasn't working (but those also could have been like the others that you just had to re-install the banking app, rather than trusting the iCloud restore to get it working again).
Honestly, I'd be pretty surprised to see any bank blocking it....not that any of us have seen it, but do you think Apple's legal team would allow wiggle room in the Apple Pay agreement for that?