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xnsys

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I thought I would take the plunge and install Big Sur onto my main machine, yes I know I'm a fool and all that, but then again the argument was that it's not going to be any worse than Catalina, and I work in IT and can roll it back easily, and would like to think that after 24 years in this industry I would have some clue about what to do.

For me, it seems as though the speaker popping has gone on my 15" TouchBar MBPr, as has the annoying connect to NAS where the Finder cannot find the shares, plus as an added bonus it just feels more stable and faster than the abomination of Catalina.

I guess that they were focusing on this rather than Catalina - seems that Apple are back on track.
 

pollycat

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Agreed.
With multiple backups of my last stable Catalina install, I did a clean install of Big Sur with migration of data instead of an in-place update.
So far, it's been working very well, smooth, fast, as good if not better than Catalina. Hope this continues throughout the coming betas.
 
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chama98

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I thought I would take the plunge and install Big Sur onto my main machine, yes I know I'm a fool and all that, but then again the argument was that it's not going to be any worse than Catalina, and I work in IT and can roll it back easily, and would like to think that after 24 years in this industry I would have some clue about what to do.

For me, it seems as though the speaker popping has gone on my 15" TouchBar MBPr, as has the annoying connect to NAS where the Finder cannot find the shares, plus as an added bonus it just feels more stable and faster than the abomination of Catalina.

I guess that they were focusing on this rather than Catalina - seems that Apple are back on track.
I am tempted as well but worried it could screw iCloud data like high Sierra did.
 
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xnsys

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Personally, I've not noticed anything with iCloud and that being screwed up.

There are a couple of finder quirks where the colours aren't exactly the same - but it's cosmetic.

Functionally it seems to be behaving very nicely.

As for Beta 2, guess we will find out when that drops, but I wouldn't have thought if anything, it will head into the right direction.

In my opinion, this OS (despite the cosmetics) is way better than the launch of Catalina, and for a Beta that's saying something, bit of a shame when a beta system is better than your stable release...

Not 100% sure that the icons have a uniformed feel, this has been said by many before - but then again look at how 10.10 was for the first beta and the tweaks they did to the icons and style before even the public beta - we are in that stage now.
 

chama98

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Personally, I've not noticed anything with iCloud and that being screwed up.

There are a couple of finder quirks where the colours aren't exactly the same - but it's cosmetic.

Functionally it seems to be behaving very nicely.

As for Beta 2, guess we will find out when that drops, but I wouldn't have thought if anything, it will head into the right direction.

In my opinion, this OS (despite the cosmetics) is way better than the launch of Catalina, and for a Beta that's saying something, bit of a shame when a beta system is better than your stable release...

Not 100% sure that the icons have a uniformed feel, this has been said by many before - but then again look at how 10.10 was for the first beta and the tweaks they did to the icons and style before even the public beta - we are in that stage now.


well they have had all this time to get something right seeing that most of the countries in the world are in isolation! They have spent all their time making sure that coding etc are right!
 
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xnsys

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That's true - and rumours have is that in the old days Steve Jobs used to use the OS before release and would take a personal interest in the development, and throw a full on assault if there were any bugs in there, can't imagine Tim Cook doing the same, all he can do is count money...

Craig Federighi on the other hand, from interviews I've seem seems to be taking the old Steve Jobs approach and is actually using the operating systems more as a daily driver than before, unless I'm reading too much into his comments...

I suspect that they were all focused on this macOS 11, and not Catalina so the quality wasn't there - and being committed to their yearly OS cycle they had to release something.

It's also worth noting that Rosetta 2 is rumoured to only support 64-bit apps, so this makes more sense why 10.15 removed all support for 32-bit - something to do with the ARM CPUs only about to process 64-bit.

Same reason why the iOS stopped 32-bit support, as when they transitioned to the next ARM CPU, that was 64-bit only and would slow the machines right down when running 32-bit apps.
 
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chama98

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just hope beta 2 is even better!

Have you had any issues since installing on your main Mac? I am very tempted myself, but might take a clone as a backup and use the clone on a separate part of the drive and use that so my Catalina partition is intact.
 
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xnsys

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In all honesty, I've had no issues what so ever - I had more issues with Catalina hence the reason I decided to take the plunge, thought process being it can't be any worse than things are currently, and I'm please I did...

As I say, there have been a couple of cosmetic things that are present, and I've only come across one site that doesn't work 100% as expected, and that's Ocado's shopping trying to add things to baskets doesn't always function - but everything else has worked fine.
 

chama98

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I posted onto another thread about weather time machine will convert HFS+ backup to APFS. I wonder if you have seen/experienced that?
 
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xnsys

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Not seen that happen yet, but doesn't mean that it won't convert when released.
 

mikiotty

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I agree with that. Graphical performance is very poor on my 2013 13" rMBP, but it has been since Yosemite.
It's way more stable than Catalina (which I installed and uninstalled a week later), waaaaay more good looking and seems faster too. So far, very happy!
 
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simonmet

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I’ll probably jump in at Public Beta 2 or 3. I’d want a large public audience to find any obscure major bugs first.
 
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