iPad Pro We already have Apple’s Fastest ARM Silicon

[TheRealAlex]

Apple is switching Macs to its own processors starting later this year

Apple’s first ARM-based Mac will be available later this year

www.theverge.com

Apple’s big news yesterday was my big disappointmenT. I really wanted a ship to AMD Ryzen CPUs but Apple is switching everything towards ARM owned by Japanese SoftBank. Which would explain why the stock skyrocketed.
Anyways I was gonna make a post saying We need to wait till the Newest ARM CPU before buying a new iPad Pro. Then it dawned on me we already have the Fastest ARM CPU Apple makes the A12X and the A12Z

So in a way, MacBooks and MacOS is shifting towards Us IPad users. In any case which ever Apple CPU makes it into a MacBook Pro its gonna be scary fast and Have great Heatsinks and Fans something iPad Pros don’t have.

 

[AutomaticApple]

In any case which ever Apple CPU makes it into a MacBook Pro its gonna be scary fast and Have great Heatsinks and Fans something iPad Pros don’t have.

The Mac Mini devkit had an A12Z, so I think that's the series of chips Apple will be going with.

 

[ericwn]

There was a dev kit announcement with that chip. What will end up in the real world computers will be of that kind but unlikely the same.

Look back at the Pentium whatnot from 2006 that developers got then.

And no, this was expected for a long time. AMD was never on Apple’s roadmap.

 

[matt_and_187_like_this]

ARM owned by Japanese SoftBank. Which would explain why the stock skyrocketed.

hm?

 

[TiggrToo]

hm?

Reference to Arm holdings and it's ownership by Softbank's Vision fund.

 

[TheRealAlex]

hm?

Well it is right ? Ive owned SoftBank for years. They also Tried to buy Sprint outright which just merged with TMobile hmmm And just today started selling Tmobile share.

 

[ggibson913]

So since the A12Z is so powerful and fast why no XCode for iPad Pro?

 

[mnsportsgeek]

I hope the first mac comes with some variant of the A14.

 

[ggibson913]

Apple is switching Macs to its own processors starting later this year

Apple’s first ARM-based Mac will be available later this year

www.theverge.com

Apple’s big news yesterday was my big disappointmenT. I really wanted a ship to AMD Ryzen CPUs but Apple is switching everything towards ARM owned by Japanese SoftBank. Which would explain why the stock skyrocketed.
Anyways I was gonna make a post saying We need to wait till the Newest ARM CPU before buying a new iPad Pro. Then it dawned on me we already have the Fastest ARM CPU Apple makes the A12X and the A12Z

So in a way, MacBooks and MacOS is shifting towards Us IPad users. In any case which ever Apple CPU makes it into a MacBook Pro its gonna be scary fast and Have great Heatsinks and Fans something iPad Pros don’t have.

Maybe I am not understanding what you are saying but Apple designs their own Mobile chips. They are manufactured mostly by TSMC which I took to mean is Apple designs and owns it's own chipset but contracts to TSMC to manufacture them.

 

[Marlon DLTH :)]

So since the A12Z is so powerful and fast why no XCode for iPad Pro?

It’s coming, according to Jon Prosser

 

[nick9191]

Apple is switching Macs to its own processors starting later this year

Apple’s first ARM-based Mac will be available later this year

www.theverge.com

Apple’s big news yesterday was my big disappointmenT. I really wanted a ship to AMD Ryzen CPUs but Apple is switching everything towards ARM owned by Japanese SoftBank. Which would explain why the stock skyrocketed.
Anyways I was gonna make a post saying We need to wait till the Newest ARM CPU before buying a new iPad Pro. Then it dawned on me we already have the Fastest ARM CPU Apple makes the A12X and the A12Z

So in a way, MacBooks and MacOS is shifting towards Us IPad users. In any case which ever Apple CPU makes it into a MacBook Pro its gonna be scary fast and Have great Heatsinks and Fans something iPad Pros don’t have.

With respect I don’t understand your point. You’re saying you initially thought you should wait for the newest CPU before buying an iPad Pro before realising you have the current newest CPU? Well yes, the next generation hasn’t arrived yet?

Or do you mean you thought the DTK would contain an A14 chip? New chips will arrive in Q3, I assume they will be the chips used in the first ARM Macs. It’s possible Apple provided a relatively limited DTK on purpose to encourage developers to optimise their Apps, before blowing us away with A14 in Q3.

 

[nick9191]

To add, in terms of Ryzen, there’s no real benefit for Apple to switch here. A slight speed bump for the end user maybe, but you have to question for how long? Intel and AMD always play a cat and mouse game as to who has the fastest chip, it will be different in 18 months and then different again 18 months after that.

AMD doesn’t offer massive power consumption benefits over Intel and including AMD in the lineup would mean the end of any exclusivity deal Apple had with Intel, incurring cost. AMD Macs would likely be sold concurrently with Intel Macs, meaning more warehouse space, increased complexity in the supply channels etc.

Moving to Apple’s own chips means more profit per unit and better power consumption allowing Apple to build the kind of products it likes.

 

[Jaekae]

So since the A12Z is so powerful and fast why no XCode for iPad Pro?

Hard to make a good touch interface for an app that has that extreme amount of functions i think

 

[Precursor]

The real excitement for me is Apple's future customizations of the chip with different cores, and the voltage adjustments under active cooling. They will be able to customize different chips for different machines for different workloads.

 

[gnasher729]

"We already have Apple’s Fastest ARM Silicon"

No, we don't. We have Apple's slowest ARM Silicon.

So since the A12Z is so powerful and fast why no XCode for iPad Pro?

Are you a software developer? The right tool for the right job.
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Or do you mean you thought the DTK would contain an A14 chip? New chips will arrive in Q3, I assume they will be the chips used in the first ARM Macs. It’s possible Apple provided a relatively limited DTK on purpose to encourage developers to optimise their Apps, before blowing us away with A14 in Q3.

Not to optimise apps. To make sure that they work on an ARM device. I don't have a MacOS app at the moment, but if I had one, I would want to recompile it for ARM and then have our QA people test the hell out of it before I'm shipping. (Yes, that MacMini wouldn't go to development, it would go to QA).
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I hope the first mac comes with some variant of the A14.

MacBooks and iMacs have between 2 and 8 cores, sold at different prices obviously. I would expect the 2 core ones to replaced with something very similar to the current iPad Pro chip, which will be a significant improvement, and 4 to 8 cores to replaced with a newer chip with 6 or 8 fast cores.