Wet weather Bivvy or shelter

[kenoh]

OK guys, yesterday proved that not even Gore-Tex is immune to the Scottish weather. After 5 hours in it I was soaked right through and ringing wet.

So! Those of you who brave the elements, have you got any recommendations of a portable, ideally popup shelter that I can consider to allow me to be in more comfort than I was yesterday?

Something like a 2 man popup tent or a fisherman shelter or the likes would be ideal.

Any tips or recommendations?

Thanks in advance.

I have looked on Amazon etc so please dont just post a link unless it is one you can vouch for. The ones that look reasonable on amazon are not water repellant enough see above where the rain managed to still soak me inside my supposedly waterproof coat... I suspect some of it was my own perspiration as I only had a wicking layer underneath, nothing absorbent. I dont really want to go full on tent if I dont have to.

Appreciate your views.

Thanks,
K

 

[Cheese&Apple]

These look interesting: Under the Weather Pods

Lots of options and appear to be quite portable. Obviously not something you'd lay down in but for sitting, may be ok. Of course you probably don't want to be carrying a chair around as well but sitting on the floor wouldn't be so bad.

For total and complete rain proof gear, you might want to visit an army surplus store. I have a rain jacket with hood that I bought from one for under $20. I use it only when absolutely necessary though as it's made of some sort of rubber material that does not breath at all like Gore-Tex. Not the best for a hot, humid and rainy day but good in cool wet weather and it definitely keeps the wet out. Otherwise, I stick to Columbia PFG (Performance Fishing Gear) pants and jacket.

~ Peter

 

[Foogoofish]

Without hijacking the thread, it's a great pitch...

 

[kenoh]

These look interesting: Under the Weather Pods

Lots of options and appear to be quite portable. Obviously not something you'd lay down in but for sitting, may be ok. Of course you probably don't want to be carrying a chair around as well but sitting on the floor wouldn't be so bad.

For total and complete rain proof gear, you might want to visit an army surplus store. I have a rain jacket with hood that I bought from one for under $20. I use it only when absolutely necessary though as it's made of some sort of rubber material that does not breath at all like Gore-Tex. Not the best for a hot, humid and rainy day but good in cool wet weather and it definitely keeps the wet out. Otherwise, I stick to Columbia PFG (Performance Fishing Gear) pants and jacket.

~ Peter

Thanks Peter. Going to try something like this.

 

[anotherscotsman]

OK guys, yesterday proved that not even Gore-Tex is immune to the Scottish weather. After 5 hours in it I was soaked right through and ringing wet.

So! Those of you who brave the elements, have you got any recommendations of a portable, ideally popup shelter that I can consider to allow me to be in more comfort than I was yesterday?

Something like a 2 man popup tent or a fisherman shelter or the likes would be ideal.

Any tips or recommendations?

Thanks in advance.

I have looked on Amazon etc so please dont just post a link unless it is one you can vouch for. The ones that look reasonable on amazon are not water repellant enough see above where the rain managed to still soak me inside my supposedly waterproof coat... I suspect some of it was my own perspiration as I only had a wicking layer underneath, nothing absorbent. I dont really want to go full on tent if I dont have to.

Appreciate your views.

Thanks,
K

I'd agree about Gore-Tex and most other breathable fabrics - a big problem can be wicking from the ends of sleeves and the bottom of the coat. Even though they are breathable, any sort of exertion in a cool and wet atmosphere will almost inevitably result in condensation on the inside. Best to avoid cotton clothing if you can.

One option is the good old-fashioned waterproof poncho. Covers you and your camera bag in one and packs down relatively small when not needed. These are usually a non-breathable fabric (e.g. PU coated synthetic or cotton) but if you wear your relatively lightweight Gore-Tex under the poncho, the ventilation and water barrier provided by the very loose-fitting poncho gives the vapour-permeable membrane a chance to work.

 

[kenoh]

I'd agree about Gore-Tex and most other breathable fabrics - a big problem can be wicking from the ends of sleeves and the bottom of the coat. Even though they are breathable, any sort of exertion in a cool and wet atmosphere will almost inevitably result in condensation on the inside. Best to avoid cotton clothing if you can.

One option is the good old-fashioned waterproof poncho. Covers you and your camera bag in one and packs down relatively small when not needed. These are usually a non-breathable fabric (e.g. PU coated synthetic or cotton) but if you wear your relatively lightweight Gore-Tex under the poncho, the ventilation and water barrier provided by the very loose-fitting poncho gives the vapour-permeable membrane a chance to work.

Poncho ordered... waiting for delivery...

 

[Apple fanboy]

Poncho ordered... waiting for delivery...

Can't wait to see the selfie! Great for your street photography

 

[Cheese&Apple]

I'd agree about Gore-Tex and most other breathable fabrics - a big problem can be wicking from the ends of sleeves and the bottom of the coat. Even though they are breathable, any sort of exertion in a cool and wet atmosphere will almost inevitably result in condensation on the inside. Best to avoid cotton clothing if you can.

One option is the good old-fashioned waterproof poncho. Covers you and your camera bag in one and packs down relatively small when not needed. These are usually a non-breathable fabric (e.g. PU coated synthetic or cotton) but if you wear your relatively lightweight Gore-Tex under the poncho, the ventilation and water barrier provided by the very loose-fitting poncho gives the vapour-permeable membrane a chance to work.

I like this idea. Going to get one myself.

 

[kenoh]

Can't wait to see the selfie! Great for your street photography

Yeah go on rub salt in the wounds!

 

[Apple fanboy]

Yeah go on rub salt in the wounds!

Well you're response to her should have been how the M9 is a bit dated now and the only way for you to progress and get better is to buy an M10

 

[TheDrift-]

Hi

I am not sure what type of Gortex you were using but you can get multi layer stuff which will keep you dry even if the outer layer wets out.

If the outer layer does begin to wet out then gortex looses its breath-ability and you get wet from the inside out, especially if you are doing anything vigorous.

The trick is to try and get something with a DWR coating which will bead off the water and keep the gortex breathing. The DWR does wear off and needs to be re-applied from time to time.

Patagonia make some good stuff like the refugative and I kid you not they have one called the M10!

http://eu.patagonia.com/gb/en/produ...d=root#tile-2=&q=M10&lang=en_GB&start=1&sz=24

http://eu.patagonia.com/gb/en/product/mens-refugitive-jacket/83615.html

I have done ok in English weather, but accept Scottish is a whole different ballgame!

 

[Apple fanboy]

Hi

I am not sure what type of Gortex you were using but you can get multi layer stuff which will keep you dry even if the outer layer wets out.

If the outer layer does begin to wet out then gortex looses its breath-ability and you get wet from the inside out, especially if you are doing anything vigorous.

The trick is to try and get something with a DWR coating which will bead off the water and keep the gortex breathing. The DWR does wear off and needs to be re-applied from time to time.

Patagonia make some good stuff like the refugative and I kid you not they have one called the M10!

http://eu.patagonia.com/gb/en/produ...d=root#tile-2=&q=M10&lang=en_GB&start=1&sz=24

http://eu.patagonia.com/gb/en/product/mens-refugitive-jacket/83615.html

I have done ok in English weather, but accept Scottish is a whole different ballgame!

Ken's not allowed an M10. Mrs Ken said no!