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Wildgift

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Love Yosemite look, but I get a message saying that I cannot use Iphoto 8.1.2, which is apparently what I had on my MacBook Pro/Mavericks.

Do I have to go buy the new IPhoto? Or, is there a no-cost substitute I am not figuring out. Thanks!
 

MagicBoy

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May 28, 2006
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iPhoto 8 dates back to 2009, it won't get patched it for Yosemite. iPhoto 9 (aka 2011) is about £10 on the App Store.

iPhoto and Aperture will both be replaced by a new app called Photos in a few months.

Choice is yours... ;)
 

jhdawson27

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Aug 2, 2014
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Access

Is there a way to access the raw images to save for the future release of "photo"? I don't mind not having access to iphoto but I would still like my photos to be accessible.

thanks
 

CaffeinatedNoms

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Jun 8, 2014
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Yeah, secondary-click on your iPhoto library, and click on Show Package Contents, then inside there click on the Masters folder.

Your photos are hidden in the maze of almost identical, numerically ordered folders, organised by year.
 
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bmac89

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Although Iphoto definitely isn't a professional photography program, I worry that the new Photos App will be a step backwards for amateur enthusiast photographers and towards an Iphone snaps editing app with silly filters and the likes.

I really hope they cater for those who are interested in photography and not just taking selfies and adding silly filters and effects.
 

CaffeinatedNoms

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Jun 8, 2014
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Although Iphoto definitely isn't a professional photography program, I worry that the new Photos App will be a step backwards for amateur enthusiast photographers and towards an Iphone snaps editing app with silly filters and the likes.

I really hope they cater for those who are interested in photography and not just taking selfies and adding silly filters and effects.

Oh gods, I fear the same. As soon as they said that it was all-new and not iPhoto-on-Aperture-Drugs I've been having doomongering thoughts of all the things I use that they can potentially kill off :(
 

j-a-x

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Apr 15, 2005
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I wish there was a way to view "iCloud Photo Library" in Yosemite... does anybody know if this is possible in DP5? I'll have to check it out when I get home.

I love the idea of syncing all of my edits in iOS to my Mac. Right now, if I take photos, go into wifi while I'm still editing, and then go to Photo Stream on my Mac, some of them will be edited, while others will have been sent to iCloud before I made the edits. With iCloud Photo Library in theory every time you edit a photo those changes will be synced with iCloud so all devices should have access to your iPhone's photo library as it is on your phone.

I'm afraid of a post Aperture future too. I hate Adobe and don't want to go to Light Room but I'm worried a general photos app for the masses won't cut it for me.
 

bmac89

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Hello,

I have Ilife disc which came with Leopard & Snow Leopard. I wish to continue using Snow Leopard for the moment but I am trying out the Yosemite Beta on a separate partition. I would like to install Iphoto on Yosemite while I try it out.

However the Iphoto '09 from SL is version 8 which obviously won't run on Yosemite but does run on Mavericks.

Is it legal and will it work to install Mavericks on a separate partition > install Iphoto > upgrade Iphoto > copy Iphoto app to Yosemite and run while leaving the original Iphoto installed on Snow Leopard ???

I understand that Iphoto is no longer being produced but I would still like to try it out on Yosemite.

Thanks
 

pdjudd

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Jun 19, 2007
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I believe that would be allowable, you are legally upgrading it (presumably) and the license for that upgrade follows under MAS rules which allow for multiple versions. After all you are installing the app on one machine.

I doubt that you would run into problems.
 

bmac89

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I believe that would be allowable, you are legally upgrading it (presumably) and the license for that upgrade follows under MAS rules which allow for multiple versions. After all you are installing the app on one machine.

I doubt that you would run into problems.

Thanks. I will give it a try.

Apple should really allow users upgrading from Snow Leopard to also upgrade Iphoto so that it will function in Yosemite. Otherwise you are left with no Iphoto, forced to to buy it again or upgrade to Mavericks/upgrade iphoto and then upgrade to Yosemite.... only to find the program is being discontinued shortly after.
 

The19th

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Jul 24, 2014
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I wish there was a way to view "iCloud Photo Library" in Yosemite... does anybody know if this is possible in DP5? I'll have to check it out when I get home.

There have been several posts on the webz about this (even as recently as last month), but I remember doing this a while back.

http://osxdaily.com/2012/05/18/access-ios-photo-stream-from-mac-os-x-finder/

It's been sitting unused in my sidebar since it seemed messier compared to using iPhoto/Aperture to look at the Photo Stream.
 

pdjudd

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Jun 19, 2007
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Apple should really allow users upgrading from Snow Leopard to also upgrade Iphoto so that it will function in Yosemite. Otherwise you are left with no Iphoto, forced to to buy it again or upgrade to Mavericks/upgrade iphoto and then upgrade to Yosemite.... only to find the program is being discontinued shortly after.

You are talking about a version of software roughly 5 years ago that never gets free upgrades to a new major version. Apple did that for iPhoto ’11 (i think that’s the last version) when they basically made it free with a new mac and made upgrades free. Of course that was also because that version was available in the MAS (yours was not and thus it cannot be free upgraded).

Honestly expecting free updates for software 2 versions old is not really realistic of a situation. Simply put, back when you got iLife back then it was still full commercial software. Now it’s still commercial but there are more outlets for it being free.

Again, I don’t know if you can upgrade the way you want to from mavericks, but you can certainly try.
 

bmac89

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You are talking about a version of software roughly 5 years ago that never gets free upgrades to a new major version. Apple did that for iPhoto ’11 (i think that’s the last version) when they basically made it free with a new mac and made upgrades free. Of course that was also because that version was available in the MAS (yours was not and thus it cannot be free upgraded).

Honestly expecting free updates for software 2 versions old is not really realistic of a situation. Simply put, back when you got iLife back then it was still full commercial software. Now it’s still commercial but there are more outlets for it being free.

Again, I don’t know if you can upgrade the way you want to from mavericks, but you can certainly try.

I would normally totally agree with you...

There is no reason why Iphoto which runs on Mavericks can't run on Yosemite. It seems Apple is deliberately locking users out of using the old software which continues to work otherwise and yet they currently do not have the new photos app available for purchase. If they had the replacement app available or Iphoto had not been discontinued then it would seem reasonable to lock users out and expect them to pay for upgrade/new app.

Oh well.... I can live with it....
 
Oh gods, I fear the same. As soon as they said that it was all-new and not iPhoto-on-Aperture-Drugs I've been having doomongering thoughts of all the things I use that they can potentially kill off :(

CaffeinatedNoms that is exactly why I still... don't laugh... use iPhoto 8.
In my opinion iPhoto 9 was a major dumbing-down of iPhoto that removed or butchered what to me are critical library management & editing tools.
Although I use my images professionally (but casually) I still use iPhoto as it has the best library structure I've encountered.
As good as Aperture is/was I always found its interface too clunky & industrial and it didn't offer the same sort of library sorting & browsing as iPhoto. Not that I found anyway.

Anyhews... on reading that iPhoto 8 is not Mavericks compatible it looks like I'll be holding off on an OS update until 'Photos' or whatever it's called is released.
 

gatrdave

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CaffeinatedNoms that is exactly why I still... don't laugh... use iPhoto 8.
In my opinion iPhoto 9 was a major dumbing-down of iPhoto that removed or butchered what to me are critical library management & editing tools.
Although I use my images professionally (but casually) I still use iPhoto as it has the best library structure I've encountered.
As good as Aperture is/was I always found its interface too clunky & industrial and it didn't offer the same sort of library sorting & browsing as iPhoto. Not that I found anyway.

Anyhews... on reading that iPhoto 8 is not Mavericks compatible it looks like I'll be holding off on an OS update until 'Photos' or whatever it's called is released.


I agree. I installed 9 and found it awkward and difficult, what with the email option within 9 instead of Mail, the narrow description window, the huge areas of wasted space, etc. I reinstalled 8 and have been very comfortable with it. I really don't like how Apple offers products to us, gets us to use it, and then after we invest so much time in integrating the products into the way we do things, they stop supporting it. I made that mistake with me.com (along with iWeb).

I also hope that this new app is not just some fun and whimsical app that lets us play around with our photos. I just want to organize and share and do really minor editing with the photos I shoot and scan. Will this new app let me do it as efficiently and quickly as iPhoto 8 does? I don't want to spend more hours learning and organizing again.

(Another reason why I love film and vinyl-once you have a film camera or a record player, you can always use it as long as it doesn't break. They can't change that technology on you!)
 

Abazigal

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I am actually looking forward photos on my Mac. I have always been frustrated about how inconvenient it is to transfer photos from my iOS devices to my Mac, and would love being able to access a unified photo library from any device.

I can also envision extensions lending added functionality to the Mac photos app, thereby making iPhoto redundant for most part.
 

afsnyder

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Jan 7, 2014
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Although Iphoto definitely isn't a professional photography program, I worry that the new Photos App will be a step backwards for amateur enthusiast photographers and towards an Iphone snaps editing app with silly filters and the likes.

I really hope they cater for those who are interested in photography and not just taking selfies and adding silly filters and effects.

It'll have everything the iPhone app has except it'll allow third party extensions (as well as built in editing extensions, hopefully, since this is intended to replace aperture) for all your advanced editing needs.
 
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