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What ftp do you handcoders use?

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Nov 18, 2005
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Hi all,
I was trying to use Cyberduck yesterday but couldn't get it to work. Does it have trouble if I'm logged in to the same website with Kompozer? I don't know.

Yeah, I was just trying to imagine not even using Kompozer at all... and how you hand coders really work. Like, if you weren't even using Coda, what text program would you use? EG: I was having trouble with MS word trying to alter my php code and even Mac's Texteditor didn't want to save anything as a .php file.

How DO you guys and gals do it?

I give up. I think I'm destined to buy Dreamweaver and one of those VTC.com 10 hours of DVD-video training packages. I'm just too tired and too dumb to do this the cheap way.
 
Put the TextEditor in plain text mode and it will save .php.

Coda is a very good option which you have mentioned, because it keeps local/server side in sync. Coda borrows its text engine from SubEthaEdit.

Transmit is a FTP app from the same company which shares the same engine as coda.

A lot of people use TextMate to code as well. There are lots of options like Smultron and specialist web tools like SKEdit, which doesn't get as much love but is actually pretty useful.

There's a lot available.

I use TextMate and Transmit, but have been using Coda quite a bit as well. Coda doesn't have a site/project wide search yet, which is irritating.

Edit: As angelwatt points out below, BBEdit/Text Wrangler shouldn't be forgotten as well.
 
I'm a BBEdit guy myself. I generally don't need any FTP as my server is local, but generally I'll use SFTP using Fugu when need be.
 
OK.... my man cold is hitting me harder than I thought.... I've GOT Transmit sitting on my dock for DOWNLOADING book images for a client my wife does catalogues for, and only 2 hours ago I realised it was a proper FTP I could use for UPLOADING my site! :eek::eek::eek:

I wasn't going to admit it, but you said the magic word. I'm so.... :eek:
 
eclipse said:
Why textmate? Komozer is free and does pretty much the same job, doesn't it?
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Take a look at the bulleted feature list on the Textmate page, and from that list Kompozer can only do a couple of those things. Textmate goes beyond just HTML coding, it can be used for virtually any programming language, and I think it has code completion. Kompozer doesn't do anything to help with doing JavaScript programming. Don't get me wrong, nothing against Kompozer, I think it's a great free program and makes standard code without much bulk, but it isn't perfect.

Edit: Also, the Textmate site has some screen cast that show the program in use, which is fairly impressive. Also, for myself and a number of programmers, we need to work with more than just HTML files. I work daily with XML files, which Kompozer can't help me with, but BBEdit and Textmate and still great for. So why work with multiple programs when I can use just one for everything I need?
 
Yeah, they're different tools, Komozer is a WYSIWYG editor, TextMate is a general purpose text editor.
 
I use Transmit, and up until just last week it's been fine, but lately it's been uploading and overwriting existing files only 'partially' - which means I have to upload everything twice basically (which, say it with me: sucks).

I used to recommend it 100%, but until I figure out what's going on I can't tell you to go buy it for yourself. Customer service has been slooooowww as well.

m2c
 
I'm using YummyFTP (got it for free, normally $13 or so I think?) for FTP and Smultron for my php or html editing.

jW
 
filezilla always auto quit on me, very strange.

fireftp has a updated version for my firefox 3, so thats what im using now.
 

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I'm a Transmit guy for FTP and I never really settled on a text editor before I switched to Coda. Now I use Coda's built-in FTP to upload changes to my server and I use Transmit when doing other types of FTP activities.
 
ChrisA, I've been using Mac for years and didn't know they had an "ftp" utility built-in. I'll take a look when I go home tonight.

Up to now, I've had very good luck with BBEdit for writing html. No reason to switch. But for ftp, I used Interarchy, which was way complicated for me. It is more robust for powerful, high-volume file transfers. I have now switched to Fetch, which I run from the Dashboard, and it is the best. Simple and effective for the few websites that I administer.
 
ChrisA said:
All Macs ship with a program called "ftp". That works well enough.
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Where is that at? If you are referring to the "Connect to Server..." option that allows FTP it should be noted that the connection is read-only (i.e. you can download from an FTP server, but can't upload. The only other option I am aware of that is built-in is the terminal. Please let me know if I am missing something.
 
Code: 
usage: ftp [-46AadefginpRtvV] [-N netrc] [-o outfile] [-P port] [-q quittime]
           [-r retry] [-T dir,max[,inc][[user@]host [port]]] [host:path[/]]
           [file:///file] [ftp://[user[:pass]@]host[:port]/path[/]]
           [http://[user[:pass]@]host[:port]/path] [...]
       ftp -u URL file [...]

FTP is a command line tool, but the most (not all) Mac users are more comfortable with the graphical environment. That's what the Mac was invented for anyway.
 
kgarner said:
Where is that at? If you are referring to the "Connect to Server..." option that allows FTP it should be noted that the connection is read-only (i.e. you can download from an FTP server, but can't upload. The only other option I am aware of that is built-in is the terminal. Please let me know if I am missing something.
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I believe it is located at /usr/bin/ftp

It is a simple FTP client program. It is the same FTP client that first shipped with BSD 4.2 It has been the "standrad" ftp client from about 1982 or 83. About 25 years.

Quoting from the on-line documentaton:
FTP is the user interface to the ARPANET standard File Transfer Proto-
col. The program allows a user to transfer files to and from a remote
network site.
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FTP is a command line tool, but the most (not) Mac users are more comfortable with the graphical environment.[/QUOTE]

Yes, but the question was specifiically directed at minority of people who know how to write HTML, CSS, Java Script and so on by hand using a text editor. That is what? 0.01% of all Mac users?
 
elppa said:
Code: 
usage: ftp [-46AadefginpRtvV] [-N netrc] [-o outfile] [-P port] [-q quittime]
           [-r retry] [-T dir,max[,inc][[user@]host [port]]] [host:path[/]]
           [file:///file] [ftp://[user[:pass]@]host[:port]/path[/]]
           [http://[user[:pass]@]host[:port]/path] [...]
       ftp -u URL file [...]

:eek:
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

(Shudders)
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I'm a Coda user myself, but if I had to put it up , I would use textwrangler (free), or textedit.

I would use Forklift or Transmit for FTP. I prefer Forklift over Transmit myself. Forklift's interface made more sense to me. I don't use either though because I have Coda.
 
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