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trainguy77

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I am looking for a 250GB external firewire drive. Can anyone suggest one? It will be used for backups. I would like to order online. As I have looked around and they are hard to find, most places only stock USB drives.
 
My standard advice:
Get a MacAlly aluminum Firewire case, and your choice of internal IDE hard drive like a Seagate Barracuda (5 year warranty), Mactor DiamondMax 9 or 10 (3 year warranty) or a Maxtor MaxLine III (16 Mb cache and 5 year warranty) and assemble your own. You'll usually come out less expensive, and you'll get a longer warranty on the drive. What you give up is any bundled software.
 
CanadaRAM said:
My standard advice:
Get a MacAlly aluminum Firewire case, and your choice of internal IDE hard drive like a Seagate Barracuda (5 year warranty), Mactor DiamondMax 9 or 10 (3 year warranty) or a Maxtor MaxLine III (16 Mb cache and 5 year warranty) and assemble your own. You'll usually come out less expensive, and you'll get a longer warranty on the drive. What you give up is any bundled software.
I do like that idea. I don't care about the software as I will be using either Retrospect Express(I own it) Or something like CCC.
 
CanadaRAM said:
My standard advice:
Get a MacAlly aluminum Firewire case, and your choice of internal IDE hard drive like a Seagate Barracuda (5 year warranty), Mactor DiamondMax 9 or 10 (3 year warranty) or a Maxtor MaxLine III (16 Mb cache and 5 year warranty) and assemble your own. You'll usually come out less expensive, and you'll get a longer warranty on the drive. What you give up is any bundled software.
Is this the case you were talking about? http://www.macally.com/spec/firewire/storage/35enclosure.html
EDIT: The Maxtor MaxLine III looks like it only comes in SATA and Parallel not IDE.
EDIT: same with the Maxtor.
EDIT: is SATA the same as IDE???? I am confused.
 
No, SATA and IDE are different. I would recommend getting a case from newegg.com, as well as a drive. They have a plethora of cases, and some of the best prices you'll find around. Here's a link to the cases:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010090092+1053807123&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=92

And the hard drives:
http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/Category.asp?Category=15

Just make sure the case takes IDE drives if you choose an IDE one, and vice versa. I would frankly go with IDE, since the cases are likely to be cheaper.
 
CanadaRAM said:
My standard advice:
Get a MacAlly aluminum Firewire case, and your choice of internal IDE hard drive like a Seagate Barracuda (5 year warranty), Mactor DiamondMax 9 or 10 (3 year warranty) or a Maxtor MaxLine III (16 Mb cache and 5 year warranty) and assemble your own. You'll usually come out less expensive, and you'll get a longer warranty on the drive. What you give up is any bundled software.

Right, if you buy sotck external HD, you only get 1 year warranty. I have one Roswill Rosewill RX30-U2FA, very solid.
 
in a related question, if I am going to buy a USB2.0/Firewire enclosure, is there any point in buying an SATA hard drive? Am I right that the extra speed of SATA (either I or II) is wasted unless you are using an SATA-enabled case?
 
Agreed that a case and IDE are the way to go. I use IcyBox enclosures and they keep the drives really cool without a fan.

I have had bad luck with Maxtors.

I can heartily recommend Hitachi, Western Digital and Seagate IDE drives.

If you give a look at Computers.Com (CNET) you will find a lot of bitching and moaning about the preassembled externals from ALL of the major manufactures. Homegrown is a much better way to go, both in terms of price and reliability.

PS: Get a case that has both FIREWIRE and USB so that you can use the speed of Firewire on your mac, but if need ever be, the drive can be read by a USB 2.0 port.
 
trainguy77 said:
Is this the case you were talking about? http://www.macally.com/spec/firewire/storage/35enclosure.html
EDIT: The Maxtor MaxLine III looks like it only comes in SATA and Parallel not IDE.
EDIT: same with the Maxtor.
EDIT: is SATA the same as IDE???? I am confused.


Pata connector on harddrives are IDE just another name for IDE

SATA uses 2 thin cables without the selection pin like the IDE hard drives:eek: :eek:


SATA is alot faster than IDE but the external cases for SATA drives are still expensive to buy .. If your on a budget then use IDE drive and fw drive like CanadaRam said :eek:
 
Not to thread jack but is it easy to put together the case and HDD? Ive installed a few CD drives and RAM into a computer is it much harder than that? Do they typically come with instructions?
 
Make your own from a barracuda seagate drive and an enclosure. The warranty is much longer.
EDIT: Sorry I should have read further.
runninmac: Yeah it is super easy to do, you just open it up connect two cables and put it back together. They do come with instructions though.
 
trainguy77 said:
EDIT: The Maxtor MaxLine III looks like it only comes in SATA and Parallel not IDE.
Parallell IDE = EIDE = UltraATA

Parallel is used to distinguish an IDE (UltraATA) drive from a Serial ATA (SATA) drive

SerialATA is nominally 150 MB/s compared with Parallel IDE / Ultra ATA at a nominal 100 MB/s or 133 MB/s

Since the Firewire 400 interface is going to top out at 50 MB/s, there is really nothing to choose between SATA and IDE for the external mechanism -- you;re not going to saturate the drive interface in either case.
 
Now for my next trick find someone who ships to canada. Or find a canadian store that sells these things.
 
trainguy77 said:
I found that the bay can be bought at: http://www.amsestore.com/Detail.bok?no=446 the site looks a little fishy but its linked to from this site: http://www.amselectronics.com/ So if I order through those guys for the drive I should be able to get the drive somewhere here in Calgary. Futureshop sells that kind of thing.
That case is a generic Taiwanese OEM drive enclosure, we can get them. I still like the MacAlly better.
Ordering from the US will cost you a lot more than you think, once you factor in exchange, shipping and brokerage and GST. $65 US will come out to approx CAN$110 landed.

Thanks
Trevor
CanadaRAM.com
 
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