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redshift1

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Anyone know, are they all sold as refurbs there must be thousands maybe Apple should sell the returned yellow tint imacs at a steep discount.
 
Usually they go to refurb store. They SHOULD be repaired before listed in refurb store but because there are so many of them, I doubt they do anything for them, just sell them as they are and hope that the next owner won't see it
 
cleaned up and sold as new.

I know people who've bought 'new & sealed' Macs from the brick and mortar store only to get them home and find someone else's info. on there.

not good, but I'm sure Apple isn't alone.
 
cleaned up and sold as new.

I know people who've bought 'new & sealed' Macs from the brick and mortar store only to get them home and find someone else's info. on there.

not good, but I'm sure Apple isn't alone.

It seems as though that would violate some law does anyone know?
 
Do you have evidence of that? Of course it would but I think Apple has enough lawyers to make you **** bricks. Or  would just pay you to be quiet

If it was occurring on a major level there would be more people posting about it do you have any evidence other than anecdotal?
 
There probably isn't as many as you think. The forums make it feel like hundreds of thousands of them are getting returned, when most likely its a very small %.
 
If it was occurring on a major level there would be more people posting about it do you have any evidence other than anecdotal?

There probably isn't as many as you think. The forums make it feel like hundreds of thousands of them are getting returned, when most likely its a very small %.

I second hippo's post. Very minority of refurbs have any problems and it's users fault as well if he didn't clean it.

Of course the situation would be different if all had issues and then Apple's QA would be checked. My post was just a bad half-joke :eek:
 
I second hippo's post. Very minority of refurbs have any problems and it's users fault as well if he didn't clean it.

Of course the situation would be different if all had issues and then Apple's QA would be checked. My post was just a bad half-joke :eek:

I just want to help out Apple by taking one of their yellow tinge imacs off their hands for a vastly reduced price.
 
Do you have evidence of that? Of course it would but I think Apple has enough lawyers to make you **** bricks. Or  would just pay you to be quiet

lol, the evidence of my own eyes is all I need on 1 purchased imac, no more no less.

In my experience of Apple it won't be a one off but I have no evidence of that.

been to court with Apple on a number of occasions

wait.... I lie, the last time they didn't show up. ;)
 
believe or not they are probably put in a trash compactor. All these companies work the same. it is cheaper just to make a newer one than to pay someone to repair them.

I once worked at a yamaha guitar warehouse. This practice was the norm. Unless the guitar was in mint condition, they were thrown in a secure trash compactor. We would get guitars that were perfect except for one missing string, or it had the slightest hair scratch. They also trashed beautiful synthesizers, even if the only thing wrong was it was missing just one key. It cost them pennies to make these things and it is cheaper to make a new one than to pay labor to repair it.
 
believe or not they are probably put in a trash compactor. All these companies work the same. it is cheaper just to make a newer one than to pay someone to repair them.

I once worked at a yamaha guitar warehouse. This practice was the norm. Unless the guitar was in mint condition, they were thrown in a secure trash compactor. We would get guitars that were perfect except for one missing string, or it had the slightest hair scratch. They also trashed beautiful synthesizers, even if the only thing wrong was it was missing just one key. It cost them pennies to make these things and it is cheaper to make a new one than to pay labor to repair it.

That sounds crazy enough to be true or maybe they are justed being stacked in Steve's garage.
 
believe or not they are probably put in a trash compactor. All these companies work the same. it is cheaper just to make a newer one than to pay someone to repair them.

I once worked at a yamaha guitar warehouse. This practice was the norm. Unless the guitar was in mint condition, they were thrown in a secure trash compactor. We would get guitars that were perfect except for one missing string, or it had the slightest hair scratch. They also trashed beautiful synthesizers, even if the only thing wrong was it was missing just one key. It cost them pennies to make these things and it is cheaper to make a new one than to pay labor to repair it.

Erm the refurb store tends to point to you being totally wrong.
 
Returned machines become refurbished machines. That's what refurbished computers are - returns. Since Apple feels that the slight color inconsistency (yellow tint) is within spec more often than not (in their view), those returned soley for screen issues get placed into the refurb pool for resale. Most returns that have serious hardware problems documented are isolated and components are replaced. Very unlikely they'll replace the screen before sending out as a refurb model, though. Not everyone cares about the yellow tint or grey band. Many feel its normal. Apple counts on this and it works. To them, a consumer expects a refurb to be less than perfect (and that's what you are essentially getting- USED) and so doesn't spend the money to replace the screen. They are NOT going into compactors.
 
refurbs are the ones that come back "mint". they are just quickly cleaned and all dust and dirt are blown out with an air gun. If something is slightly wrong with it, no matter how small it gets trashed.

there are more returns than what they actually sell as a refurb. if they sold every return as a refurb, they would have tons of people returning those or making claims on warranties.

Since these macs are made overseas with dirt cheap labor. it is always cheaper and easier to make a new one than to pay a high priced US worker to fix it.
 
refurbs are the ones that come back "mint". they are just quickly cleaned and all dust and dirt are blown out with an air gun. If something is slightly wrong with it, no matter how small it gets trashed.

there are more returns than what they actually sell as a refurb. if they sold every return as a refurb, they would have tons of people returning those or making claims on warranties.

Since these macs are made overseas with dirt cheap labor. it is always cheaper and easier to make a new one than to pay a high priced US worker to fix it.


VERY good point !
 
for a company like APPLE .. do you guys really think they would do this ?

trying selling defected returns as refurbs hoping the next guys wont notice the defect ?

there are procedures and Quality assurance test before they are put out to be sold as REFRUBS
 
for a company like APPLE .. do you guys really think they would do this ?

trying selling defected returns as refurbs hoping the next guys wont notice the defect ?

there are procedures and Quality assurance test before they are put out to be sold as REFRUBS

I agree. It would also violate their own policy. Nevertheless people are getting bad refurbs (and new ones) but it's just hard to believe Apple wouldn't be doing anything to try and fix this issue. This costs THEM money.

-PN
 
I agree. It would also violate their own policy. Nevertheless people are getting bad refurbs (and new ones) but it's just hard to believe Apple wouldn't be doing anything to try and fix this issue. This costs THEM money.

-PN

we have a poll thread here and i think only 10 % people are returning refurbs , which is lot less then , people returning new imacs ..so there much be some thing right about these refurbs
 
we have a poll thread here and i think only 10 % people are returning refurbs , which is lot less then , people returning new imacs ..so there much be some thing right about these refurbs

Without Apple releasing specific data all we can do is make guesses as to numbers of imac refurbs, if they follow all the steps outlined in the refurb process then a refurb is subject to more quality control than an off the shelf unit. I know I'm getting one.
 
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