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What is the HDMI port of the Studio M2 Max?
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It doesn't say HDMI 2.1 but I noticed on https://www.apple.com/mac-studio/specs/ the Display Support says
"Two displays with 6K resolution at 60Hz over Thunderbolt and one display with 8K resolution at 60Hz or 4K resolution at up to 240Hz over HDMI"
That should make it HDMI 2.1. I mean, it would be bizarre if they didn't add it to the Mac Studio but added it to the Mini.
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I read "4k resolution at up to 240Hz over HDMI" so it most likely is HDMI 2.1 I guess.
Correct. HDMI 2.1 replaced HDMI 2.0.
Also, incorrect. HDMI Licensees are prohibited from listing the version number, and instead, as Apple is doing, they are supposed to list the features which they support.
Unfortunately, Apple's description leaves us guessing a little: "8K resolution at 60Hz or 4K resolution at up to 240Hz over HDMI". If we assume this means 4:4:4 chroma sampling with 10-bit color, then this would be a 40 Gbps implementation with DSC link compression. It certainly could be a full 48 Gbps, and it would still need DSC link compression to attain full 8K60 with 4:4:4 and 10-bit color. We cannot tell from the description.
No, absolutely false. Sorry, the video is false from the second sentence.
HDMI.org realized long ago that the Version Number of the Specification cannot possibly reflect the features that you get. The video incorrectly states that manufactures can call "anything" HDMI 2.1. The truth is that manufactures cannot call anything "HDMI 2.1." They are prohibited by their HDMI Licensing Agreement from using the version number of HDMI. This is why Apple does not refer to the version number in the spec of the Mac Studio computer.
Let me explain in the simplest possible way:
4K120 TV Set: This television set will not support 8K60, but it uses HDMI 2.1 features to support 4K120.
4K120 TV Set with Variable Refresh Rate: This television set also does not support 8K60, but it uses additional HDMI 2.1 features to support 4K120 with Variable Refresh.
8K60 TV Set: This television set can support 8K60 and 4K60, but it cannot support 4K120 or VRR.
Do you see why that video is so foolish? All three of the TV's I described can be purchased today. They all use HDMI 2.1 technology and they all adhere to the HDMI 2.1 Specification.... but they are different! In fact, a 1080p sound bar which supports eARC uses features of the HDMI 2.1 Spec... even though it does not support even 4K video.
Can't you see that there is no way possible to use the HDMI version number to tell you what a product does? You're probably thinking, "Oh, I need to buy an HDMI 2.1-compatible Source Device to work with my HDMI 2.1 TV," but no you cannot!! Because if your Source device is a 4K120 device and the TV is an 8K60 device, they will definitely work together but not at their peak capabilities.
If you want an 8K60 playback device for your 8K60 TV, then those are the features you must look for. Not an HDMI Version Number. Every version of the HDMI Specification is very carefully developed to ensure that it retains extensive backward compatibility to the older versions.
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That’s….the same point as the video is making. Don’t go by just the version number. Look at what the product offers. Just because it says HDMI 2.1 doesn’t mean it works the same as another HDMI 2.1 product.
Here is another link for you.
Turns out that “HDMI 2.1” ports don’t need to actually support HDMI 2.1 features
HDMI 2.1 is an upgrade to HDMI 2.0, except when it isn’t.
arstechnica.com
No, in the second sentence of his video he says, “Literally anything can be called HDMI 2.1,” when the fact is that no product can be called HDMI 2.1.That’s….the same point as the video is making. Don’t go by just the version number. Look at what the product offers. Just because it says HDMI 2.1 doesn’t mean it works the same as another HDMI 2.1 product.
Here is another link for you.
Turns out that “HDMI 2.1” ports don’t need to actually support HDMI 2.1 features
HDMI 2.1 is an upgrade to HDMI 2.0, except when it isn’t.
And he makes it sound like it’s a bad thing or some evil doing. It’s really really simple: The writers of the HDMI Specification insist that Adopters advertise features and not the version number.
Do keep in mind this was months ago, not sure if anything changed. But we constantly have people ask on these forums and elsewhere "does this have HDMI 2.1". So it is still being advertised.
If no product can state 2.1, then we need to stop talking about it like here. And again, his point is still valid that if nothing can classify a version number any more, we need to look at the feature. So yes, technically everything is HDMI now if we drop the version.
New MacBook Pro Models Feature HDMI 2.1 Port Instead of HDMI 2.0
Apple's just-announced 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models now come with HDMI 2.1 support, a significant upgrade on the models they replace. ...
www.macrumors.com
A journalist wrote that the computer has HDMI 2.1. Apple does not say that.Do keep in mind this was months ago, not sure if anything changed. But we constantly have people ask on these forums and elsewhere "does this have HDMI 2.1". So it is still being advertised.
If no product can state 2.1, then we need to stop talking about it like here. And again, his point is still valid that if nothing can classify a version number any more, we need to look at the feature. So yes, technically everything is HDMI now if we drop the version.
New MacBook Pro Models Feature HDMI 2.1 Port Instead of HDMI 2.0
Apple's just-announced 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models now come with HDMI 2.1 support, a significant upgrade on the models they replace. ...
HDMI LLC has prohibited Adopters from using the version number to describe their product for about ten years. But, you can’t police the whole world.
I did my best to explain as clearly as possible why the version number is not permitted and why it has no meaning.
But if version numbers don't mean anything, then they don't mean anything. So why does it matter if MacBook has 2.0 or 2.1? It means literally nothing now. We need to start pushing back on journalists saying HDMI numbers are meaningless. And that video was also about journalists or reviewers as much as it was for product pages themselves. When people say this is indeed 2.1 port, it means nothing.
Again, it is because what matters is the resolution of the device.
HDMI 2.1 can support 8K120 and even 10K resolutions. It wasn’t designed for just a single display resolution.