Gee, I just came here a few weeks ago for advice on Photoshop alternatives, and now I've gone down the rabbit-hole?!
In this thread, I would like advice on what is a good WORKFLOW for digital photography. In other words, the entire END-TO-END PROCESS from capture all the way to photo-editing and publishing to archiving.
This new thread was inspired (again) by @cSalmon who said...
I still haven't made my mind up on which software I want to use for photo-editing - and am drowning on a whole bunch of choices between Photoshop-esque alternatives and Lightroom-esque alternatives.
(Based on @cSalmon's earlier advice, a Lightroom-esque application will probably better suit my photo-journalistic needs.)
And to @cSalmon's latest point, it makes sense that I consider how various photo-editing applications handle the "workflow" of managing and storing photos.
Truth be told, pretty much everything I do on my computer is centered around macOS Finder. In the "olden days", the only way you had to navigate things was via file-navigation utilities (e.g. Windows Explorer, Finder).
I prefer working from macOS Finder and working with PHYSICAL FILES and filenames that are SELF-DOCUMENTING - because I'll never lose things like when other people's Photos or Music databases get corrupted!!
(This is also why I ADHOR mobile apps 0 I don't trust app that take my data and make it an internal part of the application.)
My current workflow for video-editing is this...
- Shoot
- Download to a "STAGING" folder
- Rename the original files, and add meta-data to the filenames (e.g. "2025-03-10_153200_Robert in Chicago.mov")
- Store them in a permanent location on my laptop
- Back then up to an external drive - stored offsite
- Use Finder to find the ones I like
- Then open up one video at a time and edit it
- Save it as a new name.
- Backup again.
- Repeat.
(I would use a similar workflow for PHOTOGRAPHS, except that I would have many many times more photos than videos because of their nature and due to bracketing.)
Applications like Photos, Music, etc that create their own databases and take away control from me make me nervous...
Working manually with files has served me well for decades - even if 99% of people don't do it.
My workflow for DaVinci Resolve involves working manually with files, and it seemed to work for me. And I have had no issues with creating multiple copies of VIDEO FILES so that I had backups and could always roll things back - even though DaVinci Resolve is a "non-destructive editor (NDE).
Working with photos will be trivial to working with 50GB video files.
At any rate, I am always open to learning new (and better) approaches to doing things.
And since I will be launching my mobile news website here in a couple of months - and will have hundreds of thousands of photos to manage - I suppose I should consider how "professional" photographers work!!
Look forward to hearing your thoughts...
P.S. I have decided to NOT use any Adobe products, so advice catered towards software I might use would be more helpful.
In this thread, I would like advice on what is a good WORKFLOW for digital photography. In other words, the entire END-TO-END PROCESS from capture all the way to photo-editing and publishing to archiving.
This new thread was inspired (again) by @cSalmon who said...
csalmon said:The simple fact we photographers deal with a lot of data. We photograph variations, we bracket, file sizes become larger and larger. What is the number 1 rule of all things computer - Backup on multiple devices
Photos is not designed for "easy" external drive backup it's not even easy to know where your files are if you let your guard down one sleepy morning and let Photos do it's thing
There's a lot more to a proper workflow than just picking software. IMO a photographer's first step after capture is ingesting the images onto an external drive. When you have multiple folders containing 400 camera files internal hard drives and Cloud storage is just too quickly exhausted.
IMO Photo's design works against external hard drive storage even if it allows it - like a soft tire it wants to steer you back to it's preferred internal library gooblygook
Know your workflow, not just how to use a piece of software, but how you are going to ingest files from the camera into the computer, how you are going name, how you are going to back up. In four years how much data will your archives contain? How easy will it be to work on a file four years later?
IMO choose a software that is optimized for accessing files from external hard drive storage.
I still haven't made my mind up on which software I want to use for photo-editing - and am drowning on a whole bunch of choices between Photoshop-esque alternatives and Lightroom-esque alternatives.
(Based on @cSalmon's earlier advice, a Lightroom-esque application will probably better suit my photo-journalistic needs.)
And to @cSalmon's latest point, it makes sense that I consider how various photo-editing applications handle the "workflow" of managing and storing photos.
Truth be told, pretty much everything I do on my computer is centered around macOS Finder. In the "olden days", the only way you had to navigate things was via file-navigation utilities (e.g. Windows Explorer, Finder).
I prefer working from macOS Finder and working with PHYSICAL FILES and filenames that are SELF-DOCUMENTING - because I'll never lose things like when other people's Photos or Music databases get corrupted!!
(This is also why I ADHOR mobile apps 0 I don't trust app that take my data and make it an internal part of the application.)
My current workflow for video-editing is this...
- Shoot
- Download to a "STAGING" folder
- Rename the original files, and add meta-data to the filenames (e.g. "2025-03-10_153200_Robert in Chicago.mov")
- Store them in a permanent location on my laptop
- Back then up to an external drive - stored offsite
- Use Finder to find the ones I like
- Then open up one video at a time and edit it
- Save it as a new name.
- Backup again.
- Repeat.
(I would use a similar workflow for PHOTOGRAPHS, except that I would have many many times more photos than videos because of their nature and due to bracketing.)
Applications like Photos, Music, etc that create their own databases and take away control from me make me nervous...
Working manually with files has served me well for decades - even if 99% of people don't do it.
My workflow for DaVinci Resolve involves working manually with files, and it seemed to work for me. And I have had no issues with creating multiple copies of VIDEO FILES so that I had backups and could always roll things back - even though DaVinci Resolve is a "non-destructive editor (NDE).
Working with photos will be trivial to working with 50GB video files.
At any rate, I am always open to learning new (and better) approaches to doing things.
And since I will be launching my mobile news website here in a couple of months - and will have hundreds of thousands of photos to manage - I suppose I should consider how "professional" photographers work!!
Look forward to hearing your thoughts...
P.S. I have decided to NOT use any Adobe products, so advice catered towards software I might use would be more helpful.