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iCallum

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You answered your own question-
not that anyone would be able to find out, but still...

I think all we know is that there are 140 million iMessage users, 150 billion messages sent and they're now sending more than a billion messages each day.(from WWDC 2012)
 

mrsir2009

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You answered your own question-

I think all we know is that there are 140 million iMessage users, 150 billion messages sent and they're now sending more than a billion messages each day.(from WWDC 2012)

Yes, but it would be interesting to know how that compares to SMS messages sent by iMessage users.
 

scaredpoet

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It's not going to be easy, or maybe even possible to know for sure what amount of text messages are diverted to iOS vs SMS/MMS, because you have multiple groups that are putting together their pieces of the puzzle. Apple only knows how many iMessages have traversed their network, but they don't know how many SMS text messages were sent because that's something the individual cell network carriers do separate from Apple. And I'll bet you the cell carriers aren't interested in sharing any data that highlights a situation where their SMS traffic (and revenue) have dropped.

Likewise, Apple probably isn't keeping track of who is on which carrier, so it's impossible for say, AT&T (as opposed to Verizon or Sprint, or Orange or Vodaphone or Softbank) to know for sure what slice of that iMessage pie would've gone through their network had iMessage not existed.

So, all we can gather is from personal experiences, which are gonna vary by a lot. Some people have lots of friends and co-workers on iOS 5 using iMessage, while others not so much.

I'll say this much: before iMessage I was sending roughly 800-1,000 texts per month on average and had the unlimited messaging plan. Last month? I was billed for 53, and at the causal rate of $.25 per message on casual texting rates, that would be $6.25 less than unlimited messaging. And I know my texting habits haven't decreased any, all of that unaccounted-for traffic went through iMessage.
 
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ivoruest

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Surely iMessage is a lot less than SMS in my case. Many of them will not send as iMessage due to poor signal either on the sender or the receiver. I would say les than 25% iMesssage.
 

mrsir2009

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It's not going to be easy, or maybe even possible to know for sure what amount of text messages are diverted to iOS vs SMS/MMS, because you have multiple groups that are putting together their pieces of the puzzle. Apple only knows how many iMessages have traversed their network, but they don't know how many SMS text messages were sent because that's something the individual cell network carriers do separate from Apple. And I'll bet you the cell carriers aren't interested in sharing any data that highlights a situation where their SMS traffic (and revenue) have dropped.

Likewise, Apple probably isn't keeping track of who is on which carrier, so it's impossible for say, AT&T (as opposed to Verizon or Sprint, or Orange or Vodaphone or Softbank) to know for sure what slice of that iMessage pie would've gone through their network had iMessage not existed.

So, all we can gather is from personal experiences, which are gonna vary by a lot. Some people have lots of friends and co-workers on iOS 5 using iMessage, while others not so much.

I'll say this much: before iMessage I was sending roughly 800-1,000 texts per month on average. Last month? I was billed for 53. And I know my texting habits haven't decreased any, all of that unaccounted-for traffic went through iMessage.

I dunno.... All SMS messages have to go through apples messages app, so it might be possible for apple to measure it by thrmselves.
 

scaredpoet

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I dunno.... All SMS messages have to go through apples messages app, so it might be possible for apple to measure it by thrmselves.

It goes through the messages app, but only iMessages actually go through Apple. If you send a standard SMS, Apple's servers don't touch it.

At best, Apple might be able to keep track of the initial checks an iPhone makes to see if a phone number can be reached through iMessage, and the denial sent when it's determined that the phone number doesn't belong to an iPhone. But that doesn't necessarily mean that a text was actually sent. The text message could've been canceled mid-sentence if the user changed their mind. Or, they could've exchanged 100 text messages in a heated conversation. Apple would have no way of knowing that.
 
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