What u think, do the M1 has a long live or will the processor dies in some years?

[jfx-2021]

Hello,

I mean is the M1 or M1 Soc a long live CPU/GPU etc. or will there be in 2-3 years much system have a lot of problems with overheating - death etc.

My i7 in my MacBook Pro works this autumn 8 years. Only the Nvida GPU had green block problems on some Fotos in Safari. Maybe the GPU is defect...

What u think is the M1 a long live processor? I mean not the to high SSD writing in this case.

Thx

 

[Acidsplat]

It remains to be seen, but M1 should be more reliable than the GPUs from NVIDIA in the MacBook Pro line, which have had known issues and replacement programs.

The M1 is based off the design of the iPhone and iPad and I don't recall there being any issues with any release having to do with CPU or GPU. It's much better to be the designer of your own chip versus relying on NVIDIA.

 

[leman]

There is no reason whatsoever to assume that M1 machines will have shorter or longer lifespans than any other premium laptops in their segment. Expect median lifespan of at least 4-5 years.

 

[JPack]

Anything can happen, but it feels unlikely. The iPhone 6 had touch disease and iPhone 7 had loop disease, both of which were chip packaging failures. Nvidia's issue is more complex.

 

[Miat]

There is no reason whatsoever to assume that M1 machines will have shorter or longer lifespans than any other premium laptops in their segment.

They might have a longer lifespan, given they run a lot cooler.

 

[leman]

They might have a longer lifespan, given they run a lot cooler.

There is no empirical evidence that operating temperature has any noteworthy effect on longevity of a modern personal computing device. Yes, silicon deteriorates faster with heat, but at these levels we are talking about something like 50 years vs. 15 years of theoretical lifespan. Your device will break down from independent issues or will be replaced long before electromigration will kill the silicon.

Besides, do they really run cooler? M1 still maxes out at 100C and Apple still uses aggressive thermal throttling, just like with Intel machines. It’s just that the heat output (and this the external temperature) is lower, since M1 uses less power.

 

[pshufd]

I have an iPhone 5 on my desk and I use it as a workout timer and music player when I don't want my big phone. I'd say that the Apple SoCs will be fine. They're made by TSMC and I haven't seen any similar concerns with AMD's chips which are also made by TSMC. TSMC also makes chips for lots of other companies.

 

[Argon_]

Besides, do they really run cooler? M1 still maxes out at 100C and Apple still uses aggressive thermal throttling, just like with Intel machines. It’s just that the heat output (and this the external temperature) is lower, since M1 uses less power.

Yes, they do run cooler in comparable tasks. Something like watching 4K YouTube turned the Intel Air into a portable stove, not so for the ASi version.

 

[Miat]

Besides, do they really run cooler? M1 still maxes out at 100C and Apple still uses aggressive thermal throttling, just like with Intel machines. It’s just that the heat output (and this the external temperature) is lower, since M1 uses less power.

Unless you are a hardcore user maxing out the chips a lot then average temps should be considerably lower than any previous Mini, for the same usage pattern.