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Jman888

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Oct 24, 2006
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In your Mind what would make Apples lineup Completely Perfect?
In my opininon.

Desktops
-Imac
*Core2
*Up to 4Gigs Ram
*7600 from 24" Standard on 17" and 20" And 24" Bumped to 7900 GTX (In Dell laptops and i know the 24" Imac uses MXM)
-Mac Pro.
*x1950 Standard (WTF a 2500$ Machine with a 7300 ?? Umm. 7600's are only about 120$ so i know 7300's Are cheap)
*8800GTX as a option(Way faster (2-3x) Then x1950
-Mac mini
*Better GPU then :apple:tv (So over a nividia 7400) If its economical in a set top box you can put it in a Computer.
*Full Sise HD (Unlikely too big. But WAY cheaper and more storage than 2.5" Drives.
*Core2 1.86 Lowend 2.0Highend (Core2 is set to drop in price soon to compete better when AMD comes out with the Athalon X2 6000+ So it could be economical)
*Superdrive Standard or at least as a upgrade (Preferablly standard because DVD burners are DIRT CHEAP these days (Can be had for 30$)

--Macbook
*Dedicated Graphics. only complaint about it truly..
*Possibly cheaper i dunno.. (Price really isnt that bad.)
--Macbook Pro
*Faster graphics.

Thats it.
 

Scarlet Fever

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Jul 22, 2005
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Bookshop!
-Mac mini
*Better GPU then :apple:tv (So over a nividia 7400) If its economical in a set top box you can put it in a Computer.
*Full Sise HD (Unlikely too big. But WAY cheaper and more storage than 2.5" Drives.
*Core2 1.86 Lowend 2.0Highend (Core2 is set to drop in price soon to compete better when AMD comes out with the Athalon X2 6000+ So it could be economical)
*Superdrive Standard or at least as a upgrade (Preferablly standard because DVD burners are DIRT CHEAP these days (Can be had for 30$)

the problem with the dedicated GPU is heat, which would mean they have to make it bigger to accomodate more cooling systems. The full size HDD will add even more space requirements to it. When you get to that stage, it's almost an iMac anyway. Add a PCIe slot and you have a iMac tower.

--Macbook
*Dedicated Graphics. only complaint about it truly..
*Possibly cheaper i dunno.. (Price really isnt that bad.)
Not everyone who buys a MacBook needs dedicated graphics; me included. If you are more serious about playing games, you are looking for an iMac or a Mac Pro.

And the price is perfect as it is. I compared a macbook and a macbook pro to similarly specced Dells the other day, and the MacBooks came out about $100 cheaper. If the price comes down any more, they wouldn't be earning any profit at all.
 

roland.g

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Apr 11, 2005
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Dude. Another graphics card thread!
Really. Be realistic. Do some research.
Get back to us with something that isn't I want this I want this, when you don't really know feasibility or cost concerns.

You will never be satisfied with their lineup because 1. even if they did everything you wanted, a new card would come out the next day and you would say why don't they offer that and 2. you don't get what product levels are about in terms of offering a range of products at different price points to give options to the consumer. What you want in the Mini is available in the iMac and Mac Pro but then you want more out of them then they have. The circle goes on and on. Why doesn't the MacBook have dedicated graphics, because that would make it a MacBook Pro. There has to be differentiation.
 

Jman888

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Oct 24, 2006
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Dude. Another graphics card thread!
Really. Be realistic. Do some research.
Get back to us with something that isn't I want this I want this, when you don't really know feasibility or cost concerns.

You will never be satisfied with their lineup because 1. even if they did everything you wanted, a new card would come out the next day and you would say why don't they offer that and 2. you don't get what product levels are about in terms of offering a range of products at different price points to give options to the consumer. What you want in the Mini is available in the iMac and Mac Pro but then you want more out of them then they have. The circle goes on and on. Why doesn't the MacBook have dedicated graphics, because that would make it a MacBook Pro. There has to be differentiation.
Give the Macbook Pro a faster one (They have laptop gpu's Twice as fast now *7950* )
I really think the macbook is perfect. I mean the GMA is my ONLY problem with it. So i say in my opinion the Macbook is apples best (Other than MBP)I might just get one..

But also the iTv has a Dedicated graphics so there is no exuse fofr it to not have dedicated graphics thesedays (Also other small laptops have it. Generally it is a 7400 A few have x1600 's

Also I said "DREAM" Like if anything could happen.
 

roland.g

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Apr 11, 2005
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iMac - as it is. Redesign due by September, using Santa Rosa chipset. Revision in February/March adding Black and Red color options.

Mini - as it is. February Core 2 Speed Bump. Santa Rosa chipset using GMA X3000.

Mac Pro - as it is. Dual Quad Core revision February/March. New case design for WWDC.

MacBook - as it is. Santa Rosa chipset using X3000 graphics in September. Revision in February/March adding Red color option.

MacBook Pro
- as it is. WWDC case redesign.

introducing this March/April the

Mac Pro Jr.
- similar smaller anodized Silver case.
500GB HDD, room for 2 full 3.5" HDDs.
4 GBs RAM
Conroe, Woodcrest or Kentsfield CPU.
dedicated graphics in PCI slot.
2nd PCI slot.
Standard 1 FW 800, 2FW 400, 4 USB 2.0
Airport Extreme N and Bluetooth 2.0
Without Keyboard & Mouse.
$1500-$1900

Bundled with Keyboard, Mouse, and Apple Monitors giving $100-$200 combined discount off separate prices, based on monitor price. (100,150,200)
 

miloblithe

macrumors 68020
Nov 14, 2003
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I'd like the see the iMac line go 20", 22", 24", perhaps keeping the 17" for EDU. And chinless would be nice, or at least less chinny.

I'd like to see a top of the line fat mini with a 3.5" HD.

I'd like to see a sub-$2000 MacPro. Perhaps as things move forward there could be two teirs of processor options, like for example low 4-cores, high, four cores, low 8 cores, mid 8 cores, high 8 cores.

Portables? The lineup seems good excepting an ultraportable. Maybe something like a 13" MacBook Pro ultralight.
 

roland.g

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I'd like the see the iMac line go 20", 22", 24", perhaps keeping the 17" for EDU. And chinless would be nice, or at least less chinny.

Can't get rid of the chin yet. Power supply won't fit behind the screen.
 

Dont Hurt Me

macrumors 603
Dec 21, 2002
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Yahooville S.C.
All thats really missing is a consumer configurable machine meaning a consumer tower with choice of video cards,some slots so it can hold a tv tuner inside and nice styling. To tell people you must buy a strippo Mini or All in one or a Workstation is telling 95% of the world go use XP or Vista......Hey wait a minute thats just what happened.
 

roland.g

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I'd like the see the iMac line go 20", 22", 24", perhaps keeping the 17" for EDU. And chinless would be nice, or at least less chinny.

I'd like to see a top of the line fat mini with a 3.5" HD.

I'd like to see a sub-$2000 MacPro. Perhaps as things move forward there could be two teirs of processor options, like for example low 4-cores, high, four cores, low 8 cores, mid 8 cores, high 8 cores.

Portables? The lineup seems good excepting an ultraportable. Maybe something like a 13" MacBook Pro ultralight.

I doubt there will be a fat Mini and sub-$2000 Mac Pro. Personally I would rather have something in between. The Mac Pro is too big. I want it on my desk (easy port access, cameras, iPods, etc.) I also don't want FB-DIMMs, too $$. I don't know about Santa Rosa or Conroe chipsets, but the current chipsets don't do 4GB RAM. That maybe holding Apple up. Though I think the Conroe MB's can, so that would be the logical solution for a Mac Pro Jr.
 

wizwaz3

macrumors 6502a
Nov 4, 2006
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Northern Arizona
I say Apple get rid of the chin on the iMac. Use an exterior power brick. I wouldn't mind that laying under my desk if I get a chinless iMac. :) I would also like to see upgradeable drives for the iMac when they become available. e.g. HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. Possibly an adapter of some sore that would allow for HDMI players to be connected. :)

That's my dream for the iMac.
:apple:
 

Gosh

macrumors 6502
Aug 14, 2006
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iMac - larger chin

An iMac with a larger chin = more character! No chinless wonders here please!:p

Chin = Win!

Actually quite difficult to envisage what comes next really - interesting reading other peoples wish lists!

Much of the breaking technology is internal and the external shape is somewhat dependent thereon! Energy efficency will also be a design factor.

Like to see laptops and maybe iMac with secondary screen:
http://www.macworld.co.uk/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=7&blogid=3

So thinner, lighter, greener and yet still protuberant!;)
 

Maxwell Smart

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Jan 29, 2006
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I would love for a macbook without the *semi*large border around the screen and with some dedicated graphics, as it sometimes struggles driving my 22" Apple cinema display. If they did that, then the MacBook would be perfect.
 

mrgreen4242

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Feb 10, 2004
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Mac mini
CD 1.83ghz
x3000 GPU
2 RAM slots
80/100 gb laptop HDD
laptop optical drive
$499

Mac mini Pro
Looks like a Cube and a mini had a baby
C2D 2ghz
4 RAM slots
Full sized HDD/optical drive
Integrated x1600
Some kind of expansion port (PCI or PCMCIA or ExpressCard etc)
$999

iMac 20/24"
New design, maybe G4 like
C2D 2/2.33ghz
Some sort of improved GPU, I'm not too picky, use the MXM for all of them and sell upgrades though.
$1399-1999

Mac Pro
Unchanged

MacBook
Small upgrades, x3000 GPU, etc.
Stop over charging for black

MBP
Small, incremental upgrades
New 10" super portable
No built in optical drive
Hybrid flash/magnetic HDD
8+ hours battery life
Touch screen folds over to tablet layout
$1499
 

Macmadant

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Jun 4, 2005
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Desktop:
Mac Pro:
Quad core Processors,

Imac:
Radeon X1800 Graphics,
Faster Screen Response time

Cube²:
the Cube brought back in exactly the same design
same Speeds as the iMacs
Radeon X1900 GPU

Notebooks:

MBP:
X1800 GPUs
a 12" Model

MB:
A radeon x1300 GPU
a Black Glossy Finish rather than matte

Mac Mini:
Stays the same
 

mr.suff

macrumors regular
Jun 18, 2006
181
1
Leeds
after much thinking, when i should have been doing soem college work this is what i came up with

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