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Stridder44

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HFS+ (read only) drivers will be included in Boot Camp 3.0 (assuming they'll call it 3.0), meaning you'll be able to read (but not write) your Mac partitions. They'll show up under My Computer like any other HDD.

Other than that, I think it's just a lot of new drivers. The current drivers are pitiful at best. Hopefully they include many more 64-bit drivers as well.
 

flashcrosma

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to Stridder44

1. do u mean bootcamp 3.0 would allow users to use programs installed in the windows os at the time of running mac os without using fusion 2?
2. only for read? does that mean users can only use programs but not save for any work done?
 

mnsportsgeek

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I am expecting the ability to change the graphics card for once. I am also expecting better drivers such as the ability to turn off the backlight. I am also expecting that there be full support for windows 7. Basically I expect windows 7 to run just like it would on another Dell or hp. I don't think that is too much to ask.
 

Tallest Skil

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1. do u mean bootcamp 3.0 would allow users to use programs installed in the windows os at the time of running mac os without using fusion 2?
2. only for read? does that mean users can only use programs but not save for any work done?

Do you even know what HFS+ is? It's the hard drive format on which OS X is installed. The new drivers will allow you to see your OS X partition while booted into Windows. Nothing more.

So the new bootcamp will be released with Snow Leopard right?

More than likely.
 

Mackan

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I am expecting the ability to change the graphics card for once. I am also expecting better drivers such as the ability to turn off the backlight. I am also expecting that there be full support for windows 7. Basically I expect windows 7 to run just like it would on another Dell or hp. I don't think that is too much to ask.

It's too much to ask. Apple is deliberately making the support for Windows bad, to make OS X look better, and that's precisely what they will continue to do. There are too few of us complaining. And when even review sites as Anandtech are clueless (example: unable to understand or critizise Apple for their bad power management driver support in Windows on MacBooks), you kind of lose hope..

For their notebooks:

1) Forget about power management. Battery life is at best half of what it is in Mac OS X. Apple will never include drivers to improve this.
2) Only 9600M in Windows for MBP's to make the laptop produce more heat and have bad battery life.
3) TrackPad support still sucks. Scrolling is unusable.
4) Inability of BootCamp to support more than one Windows partition.
5) Cannot turn off keyboard backlight in Windows.

And other things I have probably forgot or not tested out yet.

I've tested BootCamp 3.0 beta, and the only thing they have slightly improved is to let you tap to click, on the trackpad, for primary and secondary click. Still could not simply rightclick on the right part of the trackpad to produce a rightclick, the most natural way.

Next notebook will be a ThinkPad or something. Great battery life, AND running Windows. Working trackpad.
 

techfreak85

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i dont see the big deal with a new version of Boot camp. maybe some new drivers thats it. yes as mentioned.... HFS+. maybe better 64bit support.
 

Tallest Skil

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1) Forget about power management. Battery life is at best half of what it is in Mac OS X. Apple will never include drivers to improve this.
2) Only 9600M in Windows for MBP's to make the laptop produce more heat and have bad battery life.
3) TrackPad support still sucks. Scrolling is unusable.
4) Inability of BootCamp to support more than one Windows partition.
5) Cannot turn off keyboard backlight in Windows.

1. Because that's a defect in Windows itself. Nothing can change it.
2. Driver issue.
3. Subjective.
4. Really, you sure? Then who are all these triple booters?
5. Turn it off in OS X before rebooting.
 

techfreak85

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i had a tripple boot (osx, vista, ubuntu) for a while. i cant remember if i did all the partitions in bootcamp util or not.
 

gugucom

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May 21, 2009
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Bootcamp 2.1 certainly will not support triple boot. It took them to the Alu MBP to even fix the issue of making the third partition usable as data partition. My previous 2,16 MBP could not do this due to EFI problems. And triple boot with two Windows versions isn't supported because then one installation isn't using the last partition of the hard drive. It would be awefully nice if they fixed that, but I have no hope whatsoever.

The HFS+ drivers in Windows are nice to have but again it is more a crutch than anything else. Having a mutual license agreement on HFS+ and NTFS with Microsoft is the only thing that would make Bootcamp really usable. It would provide NTFS drivers in OS X and enable formatting Windows partitions from OS X without the need for reformatting.
 
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