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If you're going to ask people to accept and support your preference for lighter and/or slimmer devices, it might aid your quest if you're not so immediately dismissive of other people's preferences.

Earlier this year, I upgraded from an iPhone 11 to an iPhone 13 Pro. The 13 Pro is noticeably thicker and heavier, and has the sharp slab sides. While these weren't the exclusive reasons why I upgraded, they were a big part of it. I like that the 13 Pro feels substantive and heavy. To me, that makes it easier to hold and to use. The square sides, in particular, are just so much more comfortable than the slippery rounded edge of my old 11.

The stainless steel frame doesn't matter that much to me. I find some of Apple's design touches, particularly with materials, to be sort of silly and fussy for no real gain. But if that extra weight means I also get practical and functional improvements like better battery life and room for better cameras, then I'm all for it and won't shed a single tear for the end of "thin and light" as an endpoint.

I don't have a problem with Apple creating devices that target thin and light for the people who prefer thin and light. I think everyone should have the device they want to have and enjoy to use. But don't assume that's what everyone wants because it was all that Apple made for a while. Now it's my turn to not have to "settle."
The regular iPhone 12 is 45 grams lighter than the pro,and with the same battery
 
It would be very interesting to this thread if Ifixit or some page like that weigh all iphone 14 plus vs 14 PM components to can compare where is the real difference in total weight.

Regarding possible differences in price if apple decide to change material from inox to aluminum they can justify to not decrease the price saying that is an special aluminum with 0 carbon footprint, or fully recicled or something like that.

Other question, have you tried to put the iphone 14 PM in a pocket when wearing a suit? In jacket or trousers is really difficult to feel comfortable.
 
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Have exactly the same sentiment! Love my 14 pro max, received Friday. But after using it for 3 days I am feeling it is too heavy. Added case (super simple silicone one) plus MagSafe ring and every time I pick phone I feel the weight.
Tried to use it while laying in bed and it is even worse :(
Will stop by the Apple store tomorrow to play with other models. :(
 
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The ability to lift something isn’t the issue for a single person it’s the comfort in doing so. I love my mini because I hold it in my hand when I go do my 5mile runs and you can definitely feel the difference over time.
Well good thing Apple has different models and someone can pick the most appropriate for their needs instead of complaining it's too heavy.
 
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Have exactly the same sentiment! Love my 14 pro max, received Friday. But after using it for 3 days I am feeling it is too heavy. Added case (super simple silicone one) plus MagSafe ring and every time I pick phone I feel the weight.
Tried to use it while laying in bed and it is even worse :(
Will stop by the Apple store tomorrow to play with other models. :(

The problem is 14 plus is not going to be on stores until October 7th… same 6,7” but almost 40 grams less.
 
Might be smart for them to market the standard iPhone as the air model. They could strip some features out and spin it as a positive.

For the pro, I don't think it's a priority. If they can make some reductions based on tech advancements, great. If not, I don't think they'll look to either increase the price or decrease other features to make it happen.

I think that’s what the SE is. The ‘standard’ iPhone is the plain 6.1” one, which has what most people need and is reasonably priced. Pro and Pro Max (Ultra) are the ones that has extra stuff.
 
Every iPhone I’ve had, at some point I couldn’t find it. But the phone was already in my pocket, it just felt too light to me. Even in my hand it feels light sometimes.
 
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I get the change in materials but my iPhone 7 is in perfect condition still after all these years (was in a thin case but in past few years been using it naked). Is there another benefit for stainless steel except durability? Does it help with the antennae?
Nope! I love having aluminum. At first people complained about bending their phones so apple promised to change and went to stainless.
 
People comparing the weight of steel to aluminium are missing a big factor.

Steel is (much) stronger so you can use less of it and gain more internal capacity while keeping the durability.

So a simple “switch to aluminium” isn’t necessarily the answer.
 
People comparing the weight of steel to aluminium are missing a big factor.

Steel is (much) stronger so you can use less of it and gain more internal capacity while keeping the durability.

So a simple “switch to aluminium” isn’t necessarily the answer.
Look apple watch sport versus SS. Only change is aluminum vs SS. Added 33% more weight and the money…
 
Well good thing Apple has different models and someone can pick the most appropriate for their needs instead of complaining it's too heavy.
Unfortunately they discontinued the 5/SE1 form factor, which I found ideal in size and weight. Even the iPhone mini is almost 20% heavier and has much more heft.
 
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I always get the largest phones because my up close vision is crap, as in I can’t read anything. Wear glasses? Yup. Except my distance vision is perfect and I have never been able to adapt to bringing glasses everywhere I go to be able to put them on and take them off just to be able to see my phone. So, I always get the largest screens I can find. It’s embarrassing to ask some random to tell you what your phone says or to borrow a pair of readers off of the rack in a grocery store to see your shopping list. 😂
This will solve your problem USMAAK.
I've got terrible 'distance vision' (short sightedness) and also need reading glasses. As long as you can hack wearing glasses....Go pick out a real nice pair of frames and progressive lenses. Make the top Plano, (zero prescription.....just ask) and the bottom your reading prescription.
Wear them all the time. Take 'em off when you don't think you'll need them.
My situation is a bit different than yours. I wear contacts under the Planos. Before I retired I hated carrying reading glasses around just to read labels or information tags, taking them on and off as needed and putting them back in a shirt pocket to only have them fall out and get lost or broken. With contacts and Planos my distance vision is great and I have great close up vision as well. I have done this for over 30 years.
You won't even be able to tell where the Plano prescription ends and the readers start.
I use a 2020 SE iPhone, no problem. The screen is tiny. (4.7 inches?) I once had a 6S+. I switched to a regular 7, and then to the SE. I will get a Mini if they ever bring them back. If they don't, I'll get another SE. Planos are cheap and weigh nothing. Just get frames you can live with as long as you'll want them on. The pair I'm wearing now is transitional so they are sunglasses outside. S
 
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Yeah I kind of wish Apple decreased the weight of the phone. But the phone naturally gets heavier as more hardware is packed. But hopefully they find a way soon.
 
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The Pro devices certainly carry some bulk with their weight I have to say. It’s quite noticeable in the pocket and when laying in bed using the device. It would be nice if titanium is the future option and it’s a shame Apple have marketed their very premium 7000 alloy in such a way people now don’t realise it’s a very premium material.
 
Limited Edition Titanium housing for iPhone Pro Max Extreme, sourced from scrapped SR-71 Blackbird spy planes, with a Super Duper Limited Edition Jetfire variant...! ;^p
 
Look for solid state batteries to begin replacing lithium batteries around 2026-2027. They are 1/3rd the weight for the same capacity rating as lithium, don’t require mined materials, run cooler, and are not subject to combustion.
 
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The funny thing is that current materials achieve poor results in drop test compared with aluminum… please Apple, innovate in next year design to avoid weight to consumers (and give more resistance…)
 
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The funny thing is that current materials achieve poor results in drop test compared with aluminum… please Apple, innovate in next year design to avoid weight to consumers (and give more resistance…)

The rear glass cracking on both phones likely has nothing to do with steel vs aluminum frames as they are using different glass compositions and and the iPhone probably experiences more concentrated impact Force on the camera area since they protrude more.

The iPhone Steel frame clearly outperformed the Samsung Aluminum frame on the corner drop, the only that test directly compared steel vs aluminum.
 
The rear glass cracking on both phones likely has nothing to do with steel vs aluminum frames as they are using different glass compositions and and the iPhone probably experiences more concentrated impact Force on the camera area since they protrude more.

The iPhone Steel frame clearly outperformed the Samsung Aluminum frame on the corner drop, the only that test directly compared steel vs aluminum.
I don’t know what Aluminum Samsung uses. But the e really weight of the SS caused the crack as the phone had a harder impact due to the extra weight.
 
The Pro devices certainly carry some bulk with their weight I have to say. It’s quite noticeable in the pocket and when laying in bed using the device. It would be nice if titanium is the future option and it’s a shame Apple have marketed their very premium 7000 alloy in such a way people now don’t realise it’s a very premium material.
Exactly. Bingo we have a winner. Finally someone gets it. It amazes me on Mac Rumors, even on this thread people are clamoring for a different material like Titanium when Apple already uses one is their very own 7000 series Aluminum. Apple marketing works very well it seems. Most on here think SS is superior to the 7000 series Aluminum which couldn’t be further from the truth.
7000 series Aluminum cost 4 times as much. They use it for Satellites and Space craft. Has a much more strength to weight ratio as SS and is a great conductor of heat. It is more scratch resistant than Surgical grade SS because it is anodized on the outside, and doesn’t get finger prints. Surgical grade SS is nothing more than SS finished without grooves or pits, but is completely smooth. This non pitted material doesn’t collect bacteria since there are no grooves or pits for them to attach to. But it is easy to scratch due to its smooth Surface. As if you own a pro model you already know this.
Your iPhone pro has the same steel as your refrigerator in your kitchen. While the base model 14 uses the same Aluminum used in space flight. Pardon the pun, but this isn’t rocket science to figure this out. The base model is better designed internally and made with a much more premium metal.
7075 Aluminum was developed for the aerospace industry to replace Titanium as it was developed as a cheaper alternative to Titanium. looking at the difference between the two 7000 series might be superior due to its better thermal conductivity. But most on here when you tell them this act like a 5 year old after they got told Santa isn’t real. 😅😂
 
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