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FlyingTexan

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I have the iPhone 11 Pro and a 12” MacBook. Who here has made the switch to an android/windows setup. What have you thought and have you lost functionality? Is lack of messages any real issue?
 

Roadstar

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While I still have a 2018 Mac mini, an iPhone 8 and a 2019 iPad Air, most of my use takes place on my Galaxy S10+ and a couple of Windows machines and a Chromebook. macOS is still better at handling hi-res displays and the laptops have a superior touchpad (if it helps when the butterfly keyboard that's still on too many models craps out), but apart from that I've mostly gained functionality with better games support and more flexible hardware choices. Oh, repairability and expandability is s plus too, at least in my books.

The lack of iMessage isn't an issue for me as iMessage was never such a factor here in Europe anyway. Most people here prefer cross-platform solutions such as WhatsApp (yes I know, owned by Facebook and all that, but that's what pretty much everyone uses).
 

Roadstar

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serious; explain the repairability & expandability
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Apple hardware nowadays is more and more soldered and/or glued down. You'll get whatever options you pick at the purchase time and live with them until it's time to decommission the whole computer. On my reasonably priced Windows desktop I can replace broken parts or upgrade them with better ones without too much effort. Also on my Windows laptop I can expand the RAM and replace/upgrade the SSD for a perfectly reasonable parts cost. That used to be possible on MacBooks as well, but it's been gone for years now.
 
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PeterJP

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I switched from Android to iPhone, stayed for half a year and now just switched back to Android (S10+ here as well). The only thing I really miss is fast file exchange, i.e. AirDrop. For the rest, the Android experience is far superior. Apps are the same, but the notifications and home screen are 10 years ahead.

I won't be switching back to Windows, though, because it looks like a dumping ground to which ads have been added. For that reason, I'm happy that the mac laptops are back to being serious machines.
 

Expos of 1969

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Six months ago I switched from iPhone to my first Android (Samsung Galaxy S10e). I miss nothing from the iPhone. Thankfully most of us here in Europe are not caught up in the ridiculous iMessage self-made trap that many users in the US seem to be (and quite a few state that iMessage is the only thing keeping them in Apple's grip).

Have little interest in using Windows so staying with my well made 2013 MacBook Pro. Have ditched Apple Music for Spotify after using AM for a number of years. With no iPhone I will be dumping iCloud next.
 
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motm95

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I mess around with a Samsung Galaxy S9+ every now and then. It's nice hardware, but I find that I prefer iOS. It is true that iMessage plays a big part of that.
 

Hastings101

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I have “made the switch” off and on. Android feels no different than iPhone besides Android phones tending to have weird little quirks like battery being drained by random system processes. They’re really the same thing and all you miss out on is a linked ecosystem like no iMessage on your tablet/phone/computer/watch, AirDrop, and iCloud. Some different types of apps are available due to side loading as well. The end. The only complaint I have is that Apple’s iCloud backup is better than the competitors’, I have never restored an Android device from a cloud backup and gotten everything back. Restoring an iOS device still amazes me.

As far as Windows, it’s really no different from macOS (ignoring the technical side). Same negatives as Android with a few more positives like more applications available. Frankly I couldn’t care less what OS is on my computer anymore, my Mac Mini runs Win10 only, but I will never again leave the iPhone/iPad/Apple Watch ecosystem it’s too useful and reliable for me.
 
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mi7chy

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I go where the apps are over what OS it runs on. It's like worrying too much about the lunch tray when it's the food that matters. For now, Windows, Linux and Android (since there's no ChromeOS phone) cover all my needs while iPadOS/iOS are the most limted. My tasks aren't predetermined so flexibility is important. One day I might need avr-gcc compiler to recompile firmware, another day run Bettercap security tool, extract tracks from a CD for translation then remerge the changes, etc.

Windows/Linux > MacOS > ChromeOS > Android > iPadOS > iOS
 

Harthag

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OP, prior to switching try disabling iMessage and see how it works for you. If that is your main concern, you'll know very quickly and save yourself some hassle / not have to buy the Android phone.
 

S.B.G

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I have the iPhone 11 Pro and a 12” MacBook. Who here has made the switch to an android/windows setup. What have you thought and have you lost functionality? Is lack of messages any real issue?
Last year I switched from iPhone XR to Pixel 3a and love it. I love the low cost the best. I paid $300 for the phone and switched from AT&T to Google Fi and pay about $26 per month for my bill.

I also left macOS and went full time with Arch Linux and love that as well. I really love the open-source nature of Linux and being able to customize literally almost everything. I not only built my own PC from parts I chose, but I also chose/built the operating system and all the packages I wanted myself. It is a very satisfying feeling for me.

The only real thing I miss sort of is Tweetbot for Twitter. But I still have it because I never got rid of the iPad.
 

robertts

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Made the switch last fall and have been going back and forth between Pixel 4 and OnePlus 7 Pro. In my 6 month experience, I would conclude there has been no net benefit in switching from iOS to Android.

My main reasons for switching were to go notchless, customization and wanting to try something fresh. iOS 13 also crippled my iPhone at a time I was looking at Pixel 4. But after a few weeks, maybe a month, the novelty wore off. That is not to say that I think Android is bad or worse than iOS, but there are tradeoffs that even each side out.

The three things that stood out after switching were:
  • battery life has been worse on Android, I am constantly having to be conservative with my usage in order to last a full day. Similar apps like Spotify, Pocket Casts and Chrome have a bigger hit to battery life on Android than on iOS
  • although customization is important and unique on Android, support for it is lacking/dwindling
  • I could never find the right combination of best software and best hardware that worked for me
When I think about iPhone, I think it is (at least) above average at most things. But when I think of my recent experience with Android, it's excellent in some areas (P4 camera, OP design) and terrible in others (P4 battery, OP camera - GCam port was just not the same nor close to the P4 camera). In the end, the switch was probably not worth it, but at the same time, switching back is also not worth it.
 
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Flow39

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I switched to Android in 2015 for about 6 months and then I switched back. I was doing the "mixed ecosystem" thing--Android phone, Pebble smartwatch (and a Moto 360 2 for a time), iPad, Mac running Windows, and an Apple TV. The experience was poor to say the least, most particularly with the Android phones I used, being a Nexus 6 and 2014 Moto X Pure Edition. Battery life was atrocious and both phones struggled to even get to the end of the day with minimal use. There were all sorts of bugs, from random battery drain, a bug where I would connect to a specific Wi-Fi network and the phone would overheat and drain 2% per minute until I rebooted and disconnected from the network, cell connectivity issues, and general unreliability.

I spent so much time troubleshooting the Nexus 6, including reflashing factory images and mixing and matching different radio builds to get the phone to connect properly to T-Mobile's network. The phone also had a serious burn in problem after 2 weeks. The nav bar burned in badly to the point where it was incredibly distracting to watch videos or look at photos in full screen. Needless to say I was not impressed with the other side of the fence, both on the hardware and software fronts.

Once I switched back to iOS/watchOS/macOS, there's been no looking back. The grass, at least for me, was not greener on the other side of the fence. Apple's ecosystem provides me with reliability, stability, polish, integration, and consistency that I can't get anywhere else. Couple that with the fact that Apple supports their hardware for long periods of time with software updates (5 years for iOS/iPadOS, 8+ years for macOS) and I've been sold for a lifetime.
 

Awesomesince86

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Made the switch last fall and have been going back and forth between Pixel 4 and OnePlus 7 Pro. In my 6 month experience, I would conclude there has been no net benefit in switching from iOS to Android.

My main reasons for switching were to go notchless, customization and wanting to try something fresh. iOS 13 also crippled my iPhone at a time I was looking at Pixel 4. But after a few weeks, maybe a month, the novelty wore off. That is not to say that I think Android is bad or worse than iOS, but there are tradeoffs that even each side out.

The three things that stood out after switching were:
  • battery life has been worse on Android, I am constantly having to be conservative with my usage in order to last a full day. Similar apps like Spotify, Pocket Casts and Chrome have a bigger hit to battery life on Android than on iOS
  • although customization is important and unique on Android, support for it is lacking/dwindling
  • I could never find the right combination of best software and best hardware that worked for me
When I think about iPhone, I think it is (at least) above average at most things. But when I think of my recent experience with Android, it's excellent in some areas (P4 camera, OP design) and terrible in others (P4 battery, OP camera - GCam port was just not the same nor close to the P4 camera). In the end, the switch was probably not worth it, but at the same time, switching back is also not worth it.

To be fair, you switched to arguably the worst mainstream Android phones in terms of battery life. Even the best don't touch the Pro Max in terms of battery, but that excluded I find battery life to be pretty similar. Iphones do much better with standby drain but worse with screen on battery in my experience.
 

yui4

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At this present time, nothing comes close to the 11 pro max for battery endurance in my experience. The s20 ultra is pretty good but even at 5000mah doesn’t come close
 
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nickdalzell1

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I never really 'switched'. I use both. I use Apple products mostly when watching videos or playing mobile games since I prefer the smoothness and fluid behavior of iOS and MacOS. However, I appreciate PC gaming so Windows 10 is a must for any true compatibility (most of my favorite games were 32-bit and never got updated to support 10.15) not to mention the endless customization of gaming PCs.

I also use both an iPhone 6s as well as a Galaxy S5. When iOS 7 came out I was really upset with the 'flat design' changes and since I couldn't undo them, I went with Samsung (then the S3 and S4 after that) which were still skeuomorphic UI design with some nature cures. It was called TouchWiz Nature UX and I really loved it (yeah, I'm probably the only one). First of all I adore nature and I loved the tech-nature connection and the sound effects at the time. The Galaxy S5 was the last of an era--headphone jacks, IR blaster, fingerprint reader, all ahead of its time and ages quite well--also the last of Nature UX design, albeit flatter in design, while still not being too much into the extreme.

I also like modern Microsoft Windows design, dubbed 'fluent' design which seems to add some of the skeuo cues from Windows 7 where it fits while maintaining 'modern' UX design.

My Galaxy S5 gets most use at work as a micro-tablet using its stock browser to download schematics, wiring diagrams and running certain troubleshooting software no longer compatible with Android 9.0 (like Catalina on Macs, Android 'Pie' removes backward compatibility with apps designed for Gingerbread and Jelly Bean). But both phones get little use since each has its own watch paired to it where much of my calling and messaing as well as music played via a wireless set of buds or AirPods.

the iPhone 6S and Galaxy S5 were pretty much in the same generation only one year apart from release (iPhone 6S in 2015, Galaxy S5 in 2014) and hold some nostalgia for me and work perfectly fine. They all have their use cases as well and I'm an 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it' kind of guy. So long as they continue to work I'll remain on them for the foreseeable future. No modern smartphones are even as feature-rich as those two old phones. No headphone jack (let's face it, no bluetooth set lasts forever and I'm sometimes caught without battery life and the wired EarPods are great in that situation), no IR blaster, no home button. I tried the iPhone X, and I hated the gesture nav. Face ID was like Android Facial Recognition back in the day--sucks. Works perhaps 50% the time and it still requires a swipe on the screen. Touch ID just immediately unlocks without adding a smudge on my screen. I also think the X and up gestures are intended to look cool but are quite unintuitive IMO. I also can't stand a phone with a screen larger than 5.1" (the size of the one in the S5). To each their own, however. Prefer the modern way of super-expensive phones that do less than a phone from 2014? great. I prefer function-over-form. Different strokes to move the world and all that.

Battery life seems to be the same on the 6S as well as the S5. However opening up enough apps on Android causes them to get warm to the touch and apps will oftentimes hang the CPU halving the battery life on an Android phone, and this happens often on my S5. A reboot usually fixes it. Likewise with Windows 10--the default out of box state is horrendous. It has a ton of RAM and CPU-eating 'apps/services' running that are not necessary or essential--requiring experience with hacking the registry and fixing permissions to get a stable system. I'm a gamer so having 'Antimalware Service Executable' running and eating 50% CPU and 10% GPU and 15% of RAM are unacceptable.
 
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N0ddie

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I made the switch from MacOS and IOS to PC and Android over the last few years. I can't see myself buying another Mac as I love building/dabbling with PCs now but I probably will keep switching from Android to IOS every couple of years.

I have an OCD organised iTunes library on my PC and my only issue was finding a reliable third party app that allowed me to sync over my library/playlists.
 

twdawson

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If iOS keeps going the way it is then I am considering going back to android. Sick of bugs and if I could go back to iOS 12 then I would without any reservations as I never had problems with that.
What phone I would get would be a hard choice, probably a pixel or something similar.
I will give iOS 14 a try before I do decide.
 
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serpico007

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I am a long time tech nerd so have switched back and forth or used all at the same time. Apple's ecosystem is one of the best out there for just getting things done. From phone, to computer to TV. My family and most of my friends are on iOS and OSX which makes it harder to just drop one thing over another. Supporting them has been easier of course, I don't miss the old days.

I tried for over 6 months going full time with my Note 9 and other Google services and Alexa, but I never heard the end of it. Complaints about tech not working properly around the house all the way to the green bubbles. So now I use the Note 9 for work mostly. Unfortunate because I invested a lot in to Samsung, Dex dock and watch too. It was very close to the iOS feeling but not as smooth.

End of the day, you need to make a decision if you will stay with one ecosystem or mixed. I don't mix too much and keep OSes for certain duties. Windows on my Alienware 17" laptop is mostly gaming with its external GPU, iPhone and iPad Pro for portable use, my Mac Pro for desktop use but that is using an old OSX flavor so it's running into a wall soon and I have a unsupported chromebook with Elementary OS running on it. Honestly, Linux has come a long way since the old days in the 90's and it is so good for older computers for daily use.

But that's me and I don't think I'll change. I love trying new tech and don't want to be closed to anything out there. After these years, I know myself if it's just being bored or I really have hit the limit with current tech when I get that itch to try something new.
 

BMox81

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I'm going with the mixed ecosystem come the end of the year.

Although I've been entrenched in the Apple side of things for years now, everything I personally use is Google based due to it being a great cross platform service, so I'm ready for a jump back over.

The iPad Pro is going nowhere so that's where it will be mixed.
 

TechLord

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Never had an android phone, but I did come close to getting the S20 over the 11 this year. But the performance of the Exynos chip and the overheating issues just put me off. I think if the snapdragon version was available in the UK I would have done it.
 

saber32au

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Currently using an iPhone with a windows PC. I buy both iPhones and windows based PC's for the same reason; longevity.

iPhones are supported and for several years, which unfortunately cannot be said for many Android phones.

Whilst my PC use (I'm referring to laptops here) are fairly basic, I can't justify paying the "Apple tax" for a Macbook when I can purchase a windows laptop at a lower (if not equivalent) price that that performs equally as well for the tasks I perform, and generally will run the latest version of Windows years after Apple has stopped support for the Macbook. In addition, I can upgrade several internal components* of a windows laptops (ie add more ram, install a second hard disk or increase the capacity of the existing hard disk, change the wifi card, replace battery), increasing performance and lifespan of the device.

* Yes, appreciate some Windows laptops cannot be upgraded, but fortunately many can.

Could I switch to an Android phone? Yes. My iPhone is currently the only Apple device I own, so I'm not locked in nor enamoured to Apple's ecosystem. All of the Apps I use are cross-platform, so l shouldn't use much if any functionality. Thought as someone who tends to hand-on to devices for a long time, it's frustrating the majority of android phones aren't supported in a similair fashion to what Apple provides for the iPhone.

Will I switch? Who knows!
 
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redneckitengineer

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I've slowly been switching away from Apple products. The R&D is stale, the walled garden is getting annoying, and they're falling way behind in features. I'm down to 3 Apple Products left.

- I sold my Apple Watch, and went back to normal ones. I enjoyed my mechanical automatics, and the look of skeletal frames. I appreciate not having to plug it in daily, or really push myself to close the rings. My wahoo Roam records all my exercise with HR strap. If Apple changed from square to other designs, and opened up custom faces, I could consider going back. I also really want a VO2 Max sensor like you'll see in Garmin watches.

- I sold my iPhone 11 Pro Max, and went back to my iPhone SE 1. I missed a phone that fit in the hand, works via fingerprint which is a bonus in these mask wearing days and sunglass and bike helmet wearing. Yes the battery is really worse, and the camera is marginal, but it gets the job done. I don't have to stretch the fingers to work the keyboard, and using SwiftKey, I can text without looking at phone again. If only it was water-resistant and had Qi.

- I've had a long history of Macbooks, and I'm done. I recently switched over to a Lenovo X1 Extreme Gen 2 with i9, 64Gb RAM, 2x 1TB SSD, and WiFi 6 AX. With a 4k touchscreen OLED that gets 100% Adobe RGB, the screen is gorgeous. I have ports again: HDMI, Ethernet, USBC, USB3.1A, Kensington, SD Card, headphone, SmartCard. No more dongle dumpster fire. My Wacom 2048point pen is fantastic for drawing with multiple buttons for custom settings. I can replace my RAM, SSD, WiFi, clean the fans, change the battery, all with a phillips screwdriver. I've bought and enabled CompuTrace in the BIOS, allowing deeper theft protection that Apple doesn't have. Yes, battery life is WAY down, but I'm rarely far from a charger for that long.

- AirPods Pro, the recent firmware updates are increasing reducing their function for me. The noise cancel was great, but I find it more annoying with the touch and hold vs the tap tap of the originals. They've now started a cracking noise which is documented all over this site. With many other competitors catching up, not seeing the benefits anymore.

- Apple TV, I don't think I'll change this one. It's still hands down the best device for streaming content. My TV has all the services I use built in, but trying to use DPAD on remote is impossible vs voice entry. Roku is slow. I'll probably never depart from this.

- iCloud. I've stopped paying for space. My O365 account comes with 1TB and I sync the photos and files seamlessly to my OneDrive. My iCloud just holds my iPhone backup now.

I've been thinking for a while of dumping the iPhone and Airpods and going back to Android. I was an Android person for many years until a girl I dated demanded I switch to IOS for Facetime or she'd leave, so I switched. I still have an Apple Card I'd have to cancel, and some apps that I'd have to figure out, but otherwise not much holding me back. I miss the creativity of manufacturers, the open environment, rooting for features, custom ROMS.
 

Expos of 1969

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I've been thinking for a while of dumping the iPhone and Airpods and going back to Android. I was an Android person for many years until a girl I dated demanded I switch to IOS for Facetime or she'd leave, so I switched.
Wow...she must have been quite a babe. Should have switched back after the relationship ended. At least you have seen the light. Under no circumstances start dating anyone now until the switch is complete and don't weaken afterwards even if a super model tries to lure you to her place to listen to her HomePod ;)
 
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