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TheRealAlex

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I have to say I am In awe of Tandem OLED. And finally solves that text trailing or ghosting seen on LCD displays.
is anyone like standing on business until the day an M5 MacBook Pro with tandem OLED is released ?
 

Smittywerben

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The horrible ghosting on MacBook pro doesn't even happen on cheap $100 IPS monitors or good VA panels, not sure how Apple managed to do this on mini LED.
I would love to have a efficient laptop with great display but since my main use for computer is gaming and gaming is nearly impossible with Mac, I will stick to PC.
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Slartibart

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The horrible ghosting on MacBook pro doesn't even happen on cheap $100 IPS monitors or good VA panels, not sure how Apple managed to do this on mini LED.
I would love to have a efficient laptop with great display but since my main use for computer is gaming and gaming is nearly impossible with Mac, I will stick to PC.
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just checking - the macOS photo was taken with a long exposure and during that time somebody moved the settings window and as a result there are multiple mouse pointers at different location as well as several displacements of the settings window captured.
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Btw. similar for the Asu’s - there the mouse pointer was apparently moved less during exposure (still moved apparently).
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So, what exactly should this communicate?​

 

Adora

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What does this mean? Making photos of a display while something is moving looks bad? Never heard about "text trailing" either. I have never seen anything strange on my 16" M2 Pro's display.

What I really hate about the displays is that they are a black mirror. I always loved my 2011 17" MBP with a matt display most and I never understood what the advantages of a glaring screen are.
 
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Smittywerben

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just checking - the macOS photo was taken with a long exposure and during that time somebody moved the settings window and as a result there are multiple mouse pointers at different location as well as several displacements of the settings window captured.
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Btw. similar for the Asu’s - there the mouse pointer was apparently moved less during exposure (still moved apparently).
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So, what exactly should this communicate?​

Yep that's the point, MacBook has ghosting when there is anything on the screen moving fast, he is also moving the Firefox page on the right side with similar speed as the left side but that cheap old laptop doesn't have the same problem. better watch the whole video on his channel to get the idea (Dawid Does Tech Stuff, I Bought A 16inch MacBook Pro For Gaming...)
ghosting on MacBook is a well known issue, with a simple search you can probably find thousands of people complaining even from this forum, this is confirmed by RTINGS several times as well, but again, probably doesn't matter if you are not gaming, I was just explaining based on my own opinion why Mac is not for gamers but general users and this is just one of those. picture quality/screen brightness is amazing but that's at the cost of horrible input lag/motion handling, this is what this communicates.
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What does this mean? Making photos of a display while something is moving looks bad? Never heard about "text trailing" either. I have never seen anything strange on my 16" M2 Pro's display.

What I really hate about the displays is that they are a black mirror. I always loved my 2011 17" MBP with a matt display most and I never understood what the advantages of a glaring screen are.
That's just one way to test the 120Hz display outside of gaming.
this level of ghosting is normal/acceptable for cheap old VA panels, but I haven't seen it even on cheap IPS panels, if ghosting doesn't bother you on Mac especially if you are not gaming or anything face paced that's fine but please don't go out there and say "What does this mean? how dare people go out there move things on their display🤬".
according to notebookcheck.net gtg response time on M3 MacBook Pro display is 69ms, which seems "nice" until you compare it to 10ms cheap IPS monitors or 1ms OLED TV/monitors.
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