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itmdramaguy

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I used to long forever for IE 6 on the Mac but it is not coming I guess and you know what, I really don't care, Safari is just as good as Internet Explorer on the Mac already and it is just in the beta. Apple really beat the socks off of Microsoft with Safari. Apple better hurry up and beat the socks off of Microsoft with iTunes for Windows very quickly.
 
i never use IE anymore, but my girlfriend always uses it. she doesnt like safari because a couple sites that she goes to do not work with safari.
 
there's still lots of sites that don't work in safari

safari's great (and camino if I fancy a change) but I often find that I have to start up IE to access multimedia sites. I've tried accessing the videos on the VH1 site but all I got on their video viewer window was "Sorry. VH1.com currently does not support video on Macintosh computers."!!:mad: How annoyed was I? Its not exactly rocket science embedding a video file. I've done it! These people are so lazy, they might as well have written "This site looks best on my PC". I'd say to everyone out there that if sites do not cater for mac users, email them- this is what I am doing. If websites have disgruntled users, they probably want to know about it.
 
Some sites can be fixed by just changing your User agent string under the debug menu. Some sites are configured to only accept a couple broswers, such as netscape and internet explorer, and just dismiss other browsers. Changing the user agent tricks the site into thinking you're using a different browser. Often times the site is just fine; other times it is a little off, but still acceptable.

To find out how to enable the debug menu, search on google for "safari debug menu," and you will find many different ways of doing it.
 
I hope there is an IE6, choices in software are always good. Besides when I teach I use IE every day to post grades. Our DDN SCHOOL CAMPUS only seems to work right with IE and only IE is recommended.
 
Originally posted by benjaminpg
Some sites can be fixed by just changing your User agent string under the debug menu. Some sites are configured to only accept a couple broswers, such as netscape and internet explorer, and just dismiss other browsers. Changing the user agent tricks the site into thinking you're using a different browser. Often times the site is just fine; other times it is a little off, but still acceptable.

To find out how to enable the debug menu, search on google for "safari debug menu," and you will find many different ways of doing it.
This will only work if the sites use the User-Agent string from the Browser. I know many sites that actually use JavaScript to detect the browser without the User-Agent string.

You can get around that by finding the source code to open source browsers and change what it says for the browser from JavaScript.
 
I only use IE for one site, and that is all. I don't use Safari because my homepage (a text only page mind you) didn't even work. I use Mozilla, the king of all browsers!

(though I'll probably use Safari after its Beta)
 
Re: Who would want IE 6 anymore?

Originally posted by itmdramaguy
I used to long forever for IE 6 on the Mac but it is not coming I guess and you know what, I really don't care, Safari is just as good as Internet Explorer on the Mac already and it is just in the beta. Apple really beat the socks off of Microsoft with Safari. Apple better hurry up and beat the socks off of Microsoft with iTunes for Windows very quickly.

I'd be interested, only as a designer though, wanting to test for optimal compatibiliy with all my possible viewers/visitors experiences.
 
Re: Safari not working on some sites

As has been stated above, it's most likely the fault of browser sniffing done by the site designers. Blame the designers for not supporting standards.

Safari is a very standards compliant browser and can handle correctly coded sites just fine.

In regards to IE6, it's sad that IE5/Mac is still far ahead of IE6/Win in many regards (Text Zoom, PNG, etc.).
 
Re: there's still lots of sites that don't work in safari

Originally posted by anneleonard
safari's great (and camino if I fancy a change) but I often find that I have to start up IE to access multimedia sites. I've tried accessing the videos on the VH1 site but all I got on their video viewer window was "Sorry. VH1.com currently does not support video on Macintosh computers."!!:mad: How annoyed was I? Its not exactly rocket science embedding a video file. I've done it! These people are so lazy, they might as well have written "This site looks best on my PC". I'd say to everyone out there that if sites do not cater for mac users, email them- this is what I am doing. If websites have disgruntled users, they probably want to know about it.

I tried to watch a video on MSN and it told me to use IE 5 and WiMP 7, so I opened up IE, tried it, and got the same message. So I emailed them and they told me to use Netscape. What? MS want me to use a competing browser? :D
 
Re: Re: there's still lots of sites that don't work in safari

Originally posted by Nermal
I tried to watch a video on MSN and it told me to use IE 5 and WiMP 7, so I opened up IE, tried it, and got the same message. So I emailed them and they told me to use Netscape. What? MS want me to use a competing browser? :D
lol :D
that s fun..
 
I find that both IE and netscape are way to SLLLLLOOOOOOOWWWW for my tastes. I pretty much use safari only now I think I'll give camino a shot though. 've heard good things about it
 
There are still a great many sites that don't work with safari. especially on corporate intranets.

IE is still a necessity.
 
Originally posted by e-coli
There are still a great many sites that don't work with safari. especially on corporate intranets.

IE is still a necessity.

Only if the sites are designed to only work with one browser.

The "one browser Web" is a fallacy and designers need to be help accountable for not creating sites that comply with standards.
 
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Only if the sites are designed to only work with one browser.

The "one browser Web" is a fallacy and designers need to be help accountable for not creating sites that comply with standards.
I completely agree the sites that only work with IE are the sites that need to be redesigned to incorporate the industry standards. BTW I'm sure everyone here has heard the next move is that IE will be bundled with AOL as its default browser. OOH yippee skip:(
 
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