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Why are people going for the intel rather then the PPC?

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Wellander said:
Hi, And I love the look of the chips better then intels.
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Did you just say you like the "look"? Why are you looking at the chip?

And the power pc chips do not have the same problems that the intel ones are having at this time (on the mac side).
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Please explain..

I love the Power PC chip because you can still run os 9 and below applications on it you can still use the real windows media player on it.
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Unlike the intel iMac/Mini/MacBook Pro that can boot into windows and run Windows Media Playe?
 
Hi,
I looked at the chip to see how it looks I am very curious on those things.
The problems are that some apps will not run on the intel chip and others run but very buggy.
And I do not want to run windows on my macs just to use windows media player.

Hi,
And to StealthRider
Os 9 is not dead.
Windows media player is not dead eather.
I realy on them.
 
It was my understanding that the PPC had either hit a speed peak or were going to hit a speed peak when they simply couldn't go any faster. I think that was Steve's main point. He was upset that he hadn't filled his goal of putting out a PowerMac with >3GHz.

And if Windows Media Player isn't dead... it should be. It's so buggy with ancient features that have been upgraded in most other players. I understand that sometimes the only thing that plays certain stuff is WMP, but there's probably a codec for QuickTime to play Windows Media files... or at least I'd like to find one.

Daniel.

Edit: I think I did used to have a WMP plug-in for QuickTime.
 
Wellander said:
Os 9 is not dead.
Windows media player is not dead eather.
I realy on them.
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Perhaps not dead to you, but development is quite dead for both (well, WMP on any Mac OS that is), so they will age rapidly and fall into the wikipedia wayside. Or "Diminish and go into the West".

As for apps being buggy or not working on the x86 architecture.. well you probably don't remember the move from 68040 to 601 and FAT binaries. As in all things of this ilk, there will be transition pains. However, I think it's been pretty well covered and explained about the switch and it's totally unavoidable. Your future Mac WILL have an Intel processor, like it or not.
 
Hi,
Windows media player 7.1/9.0 works for everyting I use it for just fine.
I never used the video portion of it but I use it for listining to online streams.
 
Wellander said:
Windows media player 7.1/9.0 works for everyting I use it for just fine.
I never used the video portion of it but I use it for listining to online streams.
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You realize there will be a point in the future (currently hurtling towards you at sixty-seconds per minute!) where they will no longer function for you in this capacity?
 
Hi,
I do remember well you probably don't remember the move from 68040 to 601 and FAT binaries
That was a disaster too.
That was a longtime ago.
I still like the PPC chip better.
 
eva01 said:
hahahahah that was great.
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Thanks Eeeveeohone! I was rather proud of that one myself.


Wellander said:
That was a disaster too.
That was a longtime ago.
I still like the PPC chip better.
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Well I wouldn't say a disaster.. but it was rough. And transitions of this ilk are bound to be rough. Apple made it through that one just fine, and the PPC was a stong CPU platform for a long time.. and now it's time to change again. And once again I think Apple will do just fine. Don't poo-poo the x86 too much just yet. It's brand new and first gens transitions will always be rough (if the past has taught us anything).

And it's OK if you're the anti-early-adopter. Sounds like you're not even using OS X if you don't have to. Tha must be increasingly difficult to do. IE 5.12 and all that.
 
What's the point of this thread? He obviously doesn't want to use an Intel Mac or let go of dead technology, so why does he care what other people are doing? Are you trying to be convinced or what? You like the PowerPC because it's prettier...ok, can't argue with that mindset. You like PowerPC because it supports your dead tech (OS9), great for you. THis thread is going absolutely nowhere...
 
This thread is funny. lots of silly reasons, course I have silly reasons for things too, makes us human. I won't ever use a blue pen, I'd rather use expensive old audio equipment than new equipment from any price range... etc.

Intel chips are hellafast. So fast I had to make up a new name. OSX flies on them. I actually fear the power the Conroe CPU will have in the next PowerMacs (MacTower?). I will break down on the floor and cry at the strength that machine will most likely have.

Ps. iGary. I love your sig.
 
Hi,
To yellow.
I use and love OSX. I still use os 9 apps. It is IE 5.17 as the last version for OS 9.

MovieCutter said:
What's the point of this thread? He obviously doesn't want to use an Intel Mac or let go of dead technology, so why does he care what other people are doing? Are you trying to be convinced or what? You like the PowerPC because it's prettier...ok, can't argue with that mindset. You like PowerPC because it supports your dead tech (OS9), great for you. THis thread is going absolutely nowhere...
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Hi,
You are right I do not like to let go of old dead technology becuase it still works.
 
Do you drive a Yugo? :)

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Wellander said:
Hi,
You are right I do not like to let go of old dead technology becuase it still works.
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"still works" theory never cut it with me. My dads car still works, it's falling apart and it's getting older by the day but he still wants a new one. Because something still works doesn't mean you should use it, just like because a new technology is available doesn't mean you should use it.

Use what makes you happy. you need no sayings for that :)
 
BurtonCCC said:
It was my understanding that the PPC had either hit a speed peak or were going to hit a speed peak when they simply couldn't go any faster.
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The POWER/PowerPC processors are no where near hitting a speed peak... on the other hand, the PowerPC 970 series is on the verge of topping out without extensive further development. That development would be totally at Apple's expense as IBM as abandon the line.

IBM originally developed the PowerPC 970 line as a transitional processor to help their clients move from the PowerPC 604e and POWER3 series processors (both 32 bit) to their POWER4 series (which is 64 bit). IBM only added in the Altivec technology to bring on Apple as a customer (IBM was never a fan of Altivec which was a Motorola technology).

As it turned out, the PowerPC 970 wasn't really needed, and most of IBM's clients quickly moved to the POWER4 and POWER5 series without the need for a 32/64 bit hybrid processor. Which left Apple as the only significant user of the 970 series... and also left them to foot most of the bill for future development of the series.


It should also be noted that all processor manufacturers have hit a barrier in both size and clock speed, which is why their are dual core processors. The first dual core processor was IBM's POWER4 (2001) and the idea has since been adopted by many other processor venders.
 
Wellander said:
Hi,
But what is wrong with the PPC chip?
Why did apple decide to switch?
And does anyone know for how muck longer will we be able to but new PPC based macs?
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The intel chips are generally faster, in some cases WAY faster, and offer way more options for a lower-power, portable unit.

I wish they would have made the switch much sooner. I LOVE my new intel mini, it's great bang for the buck.
 
Wellander said:
Hi,
To yellow.
I use and love OSX. I still use os 9 apps. It is IE 5.17 as the last version for OS 9.
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It seems you are the only one that wants the PPC. That is probably the reason they switched it was time for a change.
 
Wellander said:
Hi,
Windows media player 7.1/9.0 works for everyting I use it for just fine.
I never used the video portion of it but I use it for listining to online streams.
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Windows media player sucks ass. Use flip4mac. DO IT!!!! :D
 
Don't be completely bamboozled just yet. The switch was made because of the aging laptop chips and a foreseeable ceiling on the G5s. When the new intel desktop chips come out, they will be faster than current G5 powermacs (obviously), but the fastest Macs today are still PPC G5 towers.
 
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