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Bladery

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Hey,

often I listen to music and browse through websites where I can watch videos.
Then while watching apparently the music turns off and I can watch the video.
But after it has finished, I cannot just open control center and play the music... it shows the URL of the video and i need to open e.g. Spotify to continue listening...

Why can't it just be that I can favour music players which will be in control center? Or even iOS knows automatically that I want to listen to my music again.
 

Feenician

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Why can't it just be that I can favour music players which will be in control center?

They are not music player controls. They are media controls and always show the last media played.

Or even iOS knows automatically that I want to listen to my music again.

I can't imagine how you think iOS could possibly know automatically what you want.
 

Bladery

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Are you serious?

The proactive thing is just this what it should do!
And how is it supposed to know?
Apparently the music stopped BECAUSE I started a video, so it should continue playing after it finished.

See the Facebook app does exactly what I'm telling you. You listen to music, then press play on a video and after the video is finished, music will play again.
 

fisherking

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but there's more than 2 apps for many people. for example, i listen to spotify, then watch a video on youtube, switch to the built-in music app, then open soundcloud. how would the OS know what my next move is?
 

Feenician

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Apparently the music stopped BECAUSE I started a video, so it should continue playing after it finished

And what if you just wanted to replay the video or you'd paused it? What then? It'd be "wrong" in your eyes for it change the controls to the music. It cannot possibly predict what you want to do next.

As for Facebook, I'll have to take your word for it because I don't use it, but it sounds like is making an assumption that may or may not be correct for a given person at a given time. That itself has trade-offs - they just happen to be the ones that you want

tl;dr the CC controls reflect what you did last. Nothing more and nothing less.
 

Bladery

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Well, with the CC you are probably right but like Facebook does, iOS should do, too.
I mean, apparentLay you're going to listen to the music you have just listened before.
 

lagwagon

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Are you serious?

The proactive thing is just this what it should do!
And how is it supposed to know?
Apparently the music stopped BECAUSE I started a video, so it should continue playing after it finished.

See the Facebook app does exactly what I'm telling you. You listen to music, then press play on a video and after the video is finished, music will play again.

Proactive is based on the day and time of day to suggest something you've used at those particular days and times of that day in the past. It does not read minds and know you want to listen to music after watching a video.
 

Feenician

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Well, with the CC you are probably right but like Facebook does, iOS should do, too.
I mean, apparentLay you're going to listen to the music you have just listened before.


When are you "finished" watching video though? When you pause it? Stop it? When it reaches the end? What if you really do just want to pause and come back to it? What if you want to replay it? What if it's a video playlist? there are too many cases where predicting what you want will do the opposite.
 

BrettApple

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You mean like this? Play your media, then continue playing what you were playing before watching said video in the browser? Android does exactly this. Not bashing iOS, just an observation after reading this thread. This is a behavior that I think iOS could replicate pretty easily and it's slightly annoyed me on my iPhones and iPads over the years.

 

lagwagon

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You mean like this? Play your media, then continue playing what you were playing before watching said video in the browser? Android does exactly this. Not bashing iOS, just an observation after reading this thread. This is a behavior that I think iOS could replicate pretty easily and it's slightly annoyed me on my iPhones and iPads over the years.


The big difference there is that it appears the controls widget in your video does not switch to controlling other media like how it does on iOS. So it's not "predicting" you wanting to listen to music again after. It's just staying on what it previously played, which is exactly what it does on iOS except for the fact that iOS will also allow it to control media from other sources.
 

BrettApple

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The big difference there is that it appears the controls widget in your video does not switch to controlling other media like how it does on iOS. So it's not "predicting" you wanting to listen to music again after. It's just staying on what it previously played, which is exactly what it does on iOS except for the fact that iOS will also allow it to control media from other sources.

Excellent point. I should probably mention that other sources will also show up in the notification shade alongside other apps. That is where the difference lies. Instead of only showing one, or the last used app, it shows both.

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Of course, it can get rather cluttered this way. I could open Chrome, PowerAmp, Google Play Music, and Spotify all at once if I felt like it and control each one. iOS has the simpler and more elegant approach to this and only shows the last used one. It's all down to design language.

So perhaps that's the answer. A difference in design philosophy.
 

Feenician

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Excellent point. I should probably mention that other sources will also show up in the notification shade alongside other apps. That is where the difference lies. Instead of only showing one, or the last used app, it shows both.

MFRiCaz.png


Of course, it can get rather cluttered this way. I could open Chrome, PowerAmp, Google Play Music, and Spotify all at once if I felt like it and control each one. iOS has the simpler and more elegant approach to this and only shows the last used one. It's all down to design language.

So perhaps that's the answer. A difference in design philosophy.

Agree with this post. Multiple sets of controls solve the "problem" described by the op but are inescapably cluttered by design.
 
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